Captain JONES. And I place that as to why it is my last awareness of--the back car is ahead of, towards Commerce Street. The prisoner is coming from back here [indicating]. The car is backing like this [indicating]. I am looking at---- Mr. HUBERT. You were looking at the automobile? Captain JONES. At the automobile. They say, "Here he comes." I turned and these people back this way---- Mr. HUBERT. Looking away from the direction? Captain JONES. Into this basement parking area. I heard a shot, and I distinctly remember looking over my left shoulder and behind me to the scene of the scuffle. Mr. HUBERT. What did you see? Captain JONES. Just mass confusion of people. Mr. HUBERT. All right; let me ask you this; had you at any time seen Ruby in the basement? Captain JONES. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. At the time of the shooting, did you see him? Captain JONES. Not at the moment of the shooting. I was looking out into the basement area, parking area. Mr. HUBERT. After the shooting, did you see him? Captain JONES. I did; after he was in custody and on his feet and just prior to them taking him into the jail office. Mr. HUBERT. Did you recognize him then? Captain JONES. At that time, after having someone say it was Jack Ruby, then I did recognize him as Jack Ruby. Mr. HUBERT. Did you hear him say anything? Captain JONES. No, sir; in fact, I wasn't that close to him. Mr. HUBERT. Did you have anything more to do with Ruby? Did you see him after that? Captain JONES. Can I continue on the chronological thing there? I don't believe I did see him---- Mr. HUBERT. Go ahead.