Mr. GRIFFIN. You have crossed out one mark and you made a big circle which you blacked in, on the railing. Mr. BEERS. May I draw an arrow to point where I was standing? Mr. GRIFFIN. Okay. Mr. BEERS. So it will be much clearer. Mr. GRIFFIN. What time would you estimate it was when you stationed yourself at point 1? Mr. BEERS. Probably 9:15 or 9:20. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did you remain at that position? Mr. BEERS. According to the time which we received, and which Mr. Ruby shot Mr. Oswald, which would be somewhere around 11:21, or thereabouts, I probably remained there until about 11:25. Mr. GRIFFIN. So you remained there right at that spot right up until the shooting? Mr. BEERS. And through the shooting and for a few moments thereafter. Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Mr. BEERS. A few minutes thereafter. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall an automobile moving out of the ramp? I mean out of the garage area and going up the Main Street ramp shortly before Mr. Oswald was shot? Mr. BEERS. Yes; there was an armored car parked in the driveway near the top of the Commerce Street entrance, and there was a black squad car, I believe I am correct, that backed up the ramp to Main Street in the direction of Main Street. I didn’t look right up there and see what he did. He never came back down the ramp. Mr. GRIFFIN. This is a car that you recall driving onto Main Street? Mr. BEERS. It backed up onto Main Street, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Mr. BEERS. It backed from the basement and backed up Main Street toward what would be the entrance way to the ramp. Mr. GRIFFIN. Before that car was moved, was backed up onto the Main Street ramp, do you recall any car driving in a forward direction up the Main Street ramp? Mr. BEERS. No; I don’t. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall how much traffic there was in and out of the basement while you were stationed there? Mr. BEERS. There was several police cars that came into the basement and out, and if I remember correctly, after this armored car was stationed there. I don’t recall that there were any other squad cars that came into the basement. The reason I recall them was because they were stopping there just about right where I was standing and looking into the back seats and so forth. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall a TV camera being wheeled into the basement shortly before Jack Ruby shot Oswald? Mr. BEERS. No, sir; I don’t. A big live camera? Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes. Mr. BEERS. I don’t recall seeing that. I may have, but I don’t recall seeing it. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now at the time that Oswald was brought out, do you recall how people were, newspeople and policemen, were stationed in the basement? Do you recall roughly how they were spread out? Mr. BEERS. Roughly, they were asked to get into somewhat of an L-shaped position here, which would be that the news people would be across the driveway like so, and this area here in front of the cameras was more or less open.