Mr. TURNER. No, it never did, sir; because by the time we got it to “7”, they had completely blocked the doors. I think someone said that it was--they were bringing him down and that we couldn’t leave it out there at that point or something. This is very vague. Mr. HUBERT. But, in any case, the thing never got in operation? Mr. TURNER. Never. Mr. HUBERT. The second camera never got in operation? Mr. TURNER. That’s right. The second camera hadn’t gotten into operation. I then--when I found out they couldn’t go back I returned to my position, which is on box “4”, and Mr. Tom Pettit of NBC was at circle number “7”, which was our newsman from NBC. He was hollering to me, “Tell them in New York to give it to me.” Mr. HUBERT. That is to say that you would go live on the national? Mr. TURNER. That’s right. We’d go live on the national network. So, I was talking on the direct line to him. The police car left out sometime in that excitement, going up the exit the wrong way. I mean the entrance the wrong way. Mr. HUBERT. Going up towards Main Street? Mr. TURNER. That’s right, which was different from the one, because we had always seen them come down it, and that was the first time we noticed them going out of it. Mr. HUBERT. Did that car have any difficulty going up? Mr. TURNER. Come to think of it, I think he did. I remember a lot of wheels spinning or something. Mr. HUBERT. Were there many people there? Mr. TURNER. There was quite a few. The reporters had come in at that point, somewhere along in that point, and there was getting to be a group of people. Mr. HUBERT. Anyway, what you are saying is, that the movement of that car attracted your attention, is that correct? Mr. TURNER. There was some brakes squealing or tires spinning at that time. Mr. HUBERT. Did you follow with your eyes? Mr. TURNER. I followed him as far as I could, now, there was some more commotion started a little before that of them bringing a truck in, backing an armored truck in from the exit side of it, which they were having a difficult job of getting this truck in. Now, this all happened--I can’t tell you the exact time, because it is all vague in my mind. Mr. HUBERT. Let’s go back to the police car going up the Main Street ramp towards Main Street, did you follow it with your eyes? Mr. TURNER. I followed it not only to about a point to where the drive had started up, because it was impossible---- Mr. HUBERT. To the point where the ramp starts to go up? Mr. TURNER. Uphill, the slope up, which was this column here had sort of blocked our view from---- Mr. HUBERT. Mark the column with a number. Mr. TURNER. That is number “9”. Mr. HUBERT. With a circle.