Mr. PIERCE. Unless, inadvertently, someone left it open. It is supposed to be--and it is all the time when I am on duty, it is locked. Because I don’t want any---- Mr. HUBERT. Was it locked on November 24, all the time? Mr. PIERCE. It was locked. Mr. HUBERT. You were in charge of it, and you say that it was locked? Mr. PIERCE. Yes. Now, with this reservation being that the head porter, our--Mr. Servance, also has a key to that door, because the porters’ quarters, their locker room area and quarters, what we refer to as quarters generally is on the outside of that door in the police and courts building proper, and to get to it--their duties and in this garage area here, and in the municipal building, they are required to go in and out of that door to get their assigned jobs. He has a key, and when I say, “to my knowledge it was locked,” the only reservation is that at sometime he was there and present in that area, and it was locked unless opened by him, or a porter who was working. Mr. HUBERT. So, if a person could get into this subbasement, he could go very easily into the basement, itself? Mr. PIERCE. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. No locked door between them? Mr. PIERCE. No locked doors. It has the stairway that goes from the subbasement, the stairway level up to---- Mr. HUBERT. What kind of a lock is there on that subbasement door that you are talking about? Do you need a key to get in? Mr. PIERCE. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. When you pass through the door does it automatically lock? Mr. PIERCE. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. That is a push button type lock. It is true, you can let yourself out of the subbasement and go out towards their area. Mr. HUBERT. Porters’ area? Mr. PIERCE. And when it closes back, it is locked. It locks, and to come back through you have to use your key again unless you are going to be there for some period of time, you want to be--you can push the button you are speaking of automatically and that releases itself automatically. If you push the button it remains unlocked for you. Mr. HUBERT. That would be true also if a person was coming from the outside and wanted to get into the subbasement, or you--use the key to get in and when the doors shuts again, it is locked? Mr. PIERCE. It is locked; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. All right, I think that about covers it, Mr. Pierce. Have you been interviewed by any member of the President’s Commission to your knowledge, sir? Mr. PIERCE. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. All right, sir. Mr. PIERCE. As for the--any personnel going in the garage area there at the time he was shot, I guess I am not in the position to say positively there was no one other than news personnel or media and police. Mr. HUBERT. But, you don’t know that to be a fact, do you?