Mr. SERVANCE. And assume that the room we are in is the staircase room. All right, anywhere you are on the first floor, or any of those floors you can always go into those staircases, fire escapes, none of those are not locked. Mr. HUBERT. Except the basement? Mr. SERVANCE. Except the basement where you come out, that’s right. None of them are not locked, I am sorry, I got confused there. Mr. HUBERT. I think that is right. You can go from the corridor into the staircase on the first floor, because those doors do not lock? Mr. SERVANCE. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. Now, once you get into the staircase on the first floor you can go down into the basement and go through the basement door into the basement, but you couldn’t come through the door from the basement because it is locked? Mr. SERVANCE. Yes, sir; on the weekends; yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. I think that is straight now. You said there was another fire-escape door? Mr. SERVANCE. One more. Mr. HUBERT. Where is that? Mr. SERVANCE. That is the one where we were standing there, when--one comes out of the building through the entrance right there. Mr. HUBERT. Leads---- Mr. SERVANCE. On the Commerce side. Mr. HUBERT. Leads to the fire-escape stairway? Mr. SERVANCE. Well, it is a fire-escape stairway. Mr. HUBERT. And it operates exactly on--like the other one we are talking about? Mr. SERVANCE. And it ends there on the first floor. Mr. HUBERT. Doesn’t go down into the basement? Mr. SERVANCE. Doesn’t go down into the basement. Mr. HUBERT. I see. So, that if you were on the first floor of the municipal building that staircase that we are talking about on the Commerce Street side does not lead you to the basement? Mr. SERVANCE. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. The one we are talking about before is on the Main Street side of the elevator? Mr. SERVANCE. Yes, sir; you see, you got to--you go in front of the hall, and you have got a cross corridor there. Mr. HUBERT. Two corridors that cross each other? Mr. SERVANCE. Yes, sir; and on each corridor there is a door comes from--winds around and so it comes down. Mr. HUBERT. But, only one of them goes to the basement? Mr. SERVANCE. Only one goes to the basement. Mr. HUBERT. The only one that goes to the basement is the one we are talking about? Mr. SERVANCE. That’s right, only one, that’s right. Mr. HUBERT. The other fire escape stops at the first floor? Mr. SERVANCE. Stops at the main floor and do not go down into the basement. Mr. HUBERT. Well, all right, I think that it is clear. Now, has there been any conferences between you, Mr. Servance, and any member of the President’s Commission prior to this deposition? Mr. SERVANCE. No, sir; nobody. Mr. HUBERT. Do you consider that between this document number 5131 which you identified and your deposition that we have the whole story about everything you now know about this matter? Mr. SERVANCE. That’s right, best of my knowledge. Mr. HUBERT. All right. Thank you.