Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Jackson, it may be that you have not seen that, and if you wish to have a moment to look it over---- Mr. JACKSON. Go ahead. Mr. HUBERT. Let the record show Mr. Jackson indicates he doesn’t wish to stop now. What is your name, please, ma’am? Mrs. CARLIN. Karen Lynn Carlin. Mr. HUBERT. How old are you? Mrs. CARLIN. Twenty. Mr. HUBERT. Where do you live, Mrs. Carlin? Mr. CARLIN. 1312 Fairmont. Mr. HUBERT. At present I take it you are unoccupied? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did you know a man by the name of Jack Ruby? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes; I did. Mr. HUBERT. Would you state for the record now, ma’am, how you came to know him and how long you have known him, and so forth. Mr. CARLIN. It was through my husband that I came to know him. I was working at the Theatre Lounge as a stripper and I didn’t like the job there nor the employers, so my husband had heard about the Carousel Club through girls that worked there at the Theatre Lounge, so I went over and talked to Mr. Ruby and in turn I went over and received a job after talking to him. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember about when that was? Mrs. CARLIN. September? Mr. JACKSON. Answer on your own. Mrs. CARLIN. I don’t know. Mr. HUBERT. Was it in 1963? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Let me put it this way. Perhaps we can arrive at it this way. How long before the death of the President did you start to work for Mr. Ruby? Mrs. CARLIN. I don’t know. I would say about 2 months. I hadn’t been there very long. Mr. HUBERT. What sort of employment did you obtain with him? Mrs. CARLIN. Stripper. Mr. HUBERT. What was your compensation for the job? I mean, was it salary? Mrs. CARLIN. It was salary. Seven days a week. It was $120 a week. Mr. HUBERT. A hundred and twenty dollars a week and a 7-day week? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. On what day of the week were you paid? Mrs. CARLIN. On Saturdays. Mr. HUBERT. Saturday nights? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Who paid you? Mrs. CARLIN. Jack Ruby. Mr. HUBERT. Did you know a man by the name of Ralph Paul? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. What was your understanding of his relation to Jack Ruby or to the Carousel? Mrs. CARLIN. Well, as I understood it, I met him in the office of Jack Ruby, and he was supposed to be a friend from Chicago that had known him, and he just introduced me as Ralph. And the only thing I knew was that he was a friend of Jack Ruby’s. I didn’t know he had any connection with the club at all. Mr. HUBERT. You don’t know now? Mrs. CARLIN. No. Mr. HUBERT. Did you see this gentleman Ralph Paul only once? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Before the killing of the President, I only saw him once. But after that, I saw him all the time. He came in all the time. Mr. HUBERT. You mean he was actually operating the club after? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes, afterwards. Mr. HUBERT. Did you find out then that he was the owner and operator of a drive-in restaurant called the Bull Pen at Arlington? Mrs. CARLIN. No.