Mr. HUBERT. You don’t know that now? Mrs. CARLIN. No. Mr. HUBERT. But in any case, prior to the time when Oswald was shot, you had met Paul only once, and you don’t know what his relationship was? Mrs. CARLIN. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. About this young man called Andrew Armstrong, do you recall him? Mrs. CARLIN. The colored man? Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. What was his function there? Mrs. CARLIN. Well, he was supposed to be the janitor to clean up and do little errands and to run the bar. Afterwards, it turned out that he also had a part in running the club. Mr. HUBERT. You mean after? Mrs. CARLIN. After the President was killed. Mr. HUBERT. You stayed on at the club until what date? Mrs. CARLIN. It was December. I quit--no, I couldn’t say it was in December. It was right before the first. It was a week before the first. Mr. HUBERT. The first of the year? Mrs. CARLIN. January; yes. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know a man by the name of Larry Crafard? Mrs. CARLIN. Not by name; no. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember Larry? Mrs. CARLIN. No. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember a man that stayed there and slept on the premises? Mrs. CARLIN. No; I don’t know of anyone that did. Andrew was the only one I knew that ever spent the night there, and that was just because he would say so the next evening. He said, “I am tired.” Said, “I had to stay here all night.” Mr. HUBERT. I might add that this man Larry’s full name was Curtis Laverne Crafard. Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. That was a little young boy, the one that worked the lights. Mr. HUBERT. He stayed on the premises? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. But he stayed next door most of the time. I know he was sleeping there for a while, but Jack put a stop to it. Mr. HUBERT. You mean Jack wouldn’t let him sleep in the club? Mrs. CARLIN. Jack didn’t like him sleeping there, because there was too many things gone. Mr. HUBERT. Then he made him go next door? Mrs. CARLIN. He went next door. I don’t know who was next door or what it was next door, but he went next door. Mr. HUBERT. But what you heard was that this man had, Crafard, Curtis Laverne Crafard had been staying on the premises, but that Jack had put a stop to it and made him move to some place next door, but you don’t know which next door? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Who did you hear this from? Mrs. CARLIN. It was from Larry. He was taking care of the dogs or something. Mr. HUBERT. He told you he had to move out? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Out of the premises altogether? Mrs. CARLIN. No. He just said, “I am going to have to move. I can’t stay here. I don’t know where I am going to get the money, but I am going to have to move.” Mr. HUBERT. That must have happened just before the assassination of the President? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. After that I didn’t see Larry no more. Mr. HUBERT. So to your knowledge he never did actually move, but just said he was going to have to move, and he informed you that Jack had told him he would have to move?