Mrs. CARLIN. I gave it to my husband. We didn’t have enough money to get back on the bus, so we had to take some of it and go back on the bus. Mr. HUBERT. I don’t follow you. Mrs. CARLIN. We rode a bus downtown, and we had enough money to get downtown, but not enough to get back. Mr. HUBERT. Did you have to use part of the $25 to get back, but you gave the difference to him? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Had your landlord been pressing you for the money? Mrs. CARLIN. No. It wasn’t just the rent. It was groceries, too, because my husband wasn’t working at the time. Mr. HUBERT. You had not known Jack Ruby, I take it, prior to the time you first went to work for him? Mrs. CARLIN. No. I had seen Jack Ruby one other time before that, but I didn’t know who he was. My girl friend and I, a stripper, at the Theatre Lounge, was walking to the bus stop at the Greyhound bus station to get something to eat during our hour break, and we were walking, and this big Cadillac drove up and tooted the horn and my girl friend smiled and it turned out to be Jack Ruby after I met him. I knew who it was. But he left a card on the sidewalk in front of us saying the Carousel Club. Mr. HUBERT. How long before you went to work for him, then, did that episode take place? Mrs. CARLIN. This was about 2 weeks before, because I went home and told my husband about it. Mr. HUBERT. He was driving a Cadillac? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. There was three of them in the car, two men and one woman. I never did see the man or woman, didn’t recognize them. Mr. HUBERT. Who was driving? Mrs. CARLIN. It was Jack. It turned out to be Jack. I asked him if he was the one that was driving the car and threw the card on the sidewalk, and he said, “Yes, I was.” Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever find out who the other people were in the car? Mrs. CARLIN. No; I never did ask him. Mr. HUBERT. Did you find out subsequently what kind of car Jack drove? Mrs. CARLIN. No. Mr. HUBERT. This was definitely a Cadillac? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. It could have been the other person’s car he was driving. Mr. HUBERT. There was one man? Mrs. CARLIN. There was two men. Mr. HUBERT. Two men besides Jack? Mrs. CARLIN. One besides Jack. Looked like a redheaded woman. After I saw Jack later--at that time I thought it was a stripper, but I don’t know. Mr. HUBERT. They were all riding in the front of the car? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. The girl was in the middle, I take it? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. That was about 2 weeks after that that you went to work for him? Mrs. CARLIN. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did you mention the name of the girl who was with you at that time? I think you did. Mrs. CARLIN. It could have been Jada. Mr. HUBERT. I meant the girl that you were walking with? Mrs. CARLIN. She was a stripper. I don’t remember her name. She had a hose act. I don’t remember her name. Mr. HUBERT. Kathy Kay? Mrs. CARLIN. No. My husband could probably--it was Liza Sommers, because he adored her little act.