Mr. HUBERT. Thank you very much. TESTIMONY OF ELNORA PITTS The testimony of Elnora Pitts was taken at 2:40 p.m., on March 31, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President’s Commission. Mr. HUBERT. This is the deposition of Elnora Pitts. Mrs. Pitts, my name is Leon Hubert. Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. I am a member of the advisory staff of the General Counsel for the President’s Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy. Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Under the provisions of Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, issued by President Johnson---- Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. And by a Joint Resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules of procedure adopted by the President’s Commission in conformance with the Executive order and the joint resolution, I have been authorized to take the sworn deposition from you today. I say to you that the general nature of the Commission’s inquiry is to ascertain, evaluate, and report upon the facts relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and to the subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald. And in particular, as to you, Mrs. Pitts, the nature of the inquiry today is to determine what facts that you know about the death of Oswald and any other pertinent facts you may know about the general inquiry, particularly those facts concerning Jack Ruby. Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Now, I think you are appearing here as a result of a letter sent to you by J. Lee Rankin? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. General Counsel of the Commission. You have received that letter, haven’t you? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. That letter was received more than 3 days from today? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; it was--it must have been longer than that. Mr. HUBERT. Sometime last week? Mrs. PITTS. But, the man there, Mr. Sorrels---- Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Sorrels? Mrs. PITTS. They called me and talked with me and called me again and told me to come today. Mr. HUBERT. But, the letter was received more than 3 days ago? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Because 3 days ago would be last Saturday, and it was received before that, wasn’t it? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Would you mind rising and taking the oath? Raise you right hand, please. Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. All right. For the record, will you state your name. Mrs. PITTS. My name is Elnora Pitts. Mr. HUBERT. I understand that you are a widow? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. And your husband’s name was what? Mrs. PITTS. McKinley. Mr. HUBERT. And he has been dead how long? Mrs. PITTS. Well, it has been a long time. Just exactly the date, I don’t know. Mr. HUBERT. You have not remarried? Mrs. PITTS. No, sir. Mr. HUBERT. What was your maiden name, before you married?