Mrs. PITTS. Elnora Magee. Mr. HUBERT. Magee. How old are you, Mrs. Pitts? Mrs. PITTS. Well, I was born 1903. That makes me about 60, don’t it? Mr. HUBERT. Where do you live? Mrs. PITTS. I live at 1316 East Jefferson. Mr. HUBERT. Dallas? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; Oak Cliff. Mr. HUBERT. Oak Cliff? Mrs. PITTS. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. What do you do for a living, Mrs. Pitts? Mrs. PITTS. I work in apartment houses. Mr. HUBERT. In apartment houses? Mrs. PITTS. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. What kind of work do you do? Mrs. PITTS. That is cleaning. Cleaning, you see, from one apartment to another but I don’t---- Mr. HUBERT. You work in several apartment houses? Mrs. PITTS. I go--I don’t work everyday. When they call me I go; yes; and then I have some regulars. Mr. HUBERT. In other words, some apartments that you clean everyday, or every week, or certain times? Mrs. PITTS. Certain time every week. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know Mr. Jack Ruby? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. I know him, but---- Mr. HUBERT. How long have you known him? Mrs. PITTS. Well, now, that, I would have to get the real information on Mr. David, Glen David, that was the manager of the apartments there. He was with me down here on Ewing, Mr. David was, and then they transferred me on over to another apartment on Ewing where this Jack Ruby lived, so, just to tell the truth how long that I worked for Mr. Ruby somewhere--so--along 8 or 9 or maybe 10 months. Mr. HUBERT. How often did you go to his apartment? Mrs. PITTS. I went one part of a day. On--I first started going to him on Tuesday, and then he said that was because he hadn’t cleaned it in a long time, and it was in a bad shape, so he paid me 7½ to clean it the first time, and so, next time he paid me $4 and give me busfare and then he said to me, said, “Well, it is getting pretty dirty,” said, “I’m going to give you a little raise now today,” and I said, “All right.” So, the next time he give me 5½. From then on he pay me 5½. Mr. HUBERT. That is for how much time? Mrs. PITTS. Until then I was going on Tuesday. Then he changed it then until Saturday and from Saturday to Sunday. He says he had company and wanted it fresh and clean on Sunday, and asked me if I would come on Sunday morning and I told him, “Yes,” so that is why I called him that Sunday morning, because that was my time to go, because I had something to do at home before I went, so then I didn’t go. Mr. HUBERT. So, as of November 24, 1963, it was your custom to go there on a Sunday morning? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir; I guess that was the time when he done his killing, was it? Mr. HUBERT. Well, November 24 is the day that Oswald was shot. Mrs. PITTS. Uh-huh. Well, then I called him on the next Sunday---- Mr. HUBERT. Let me get this---- Mrs. PITTS. Okay. Mr. HUBERT. Had you been going to him regularly on Sundays before? Mrs. PITTS. Yes, sir. Mr. HUBERT. You always called?