Mr. MONTGOMERY. Well, “Blackie” Harrison and Archer, McMillon. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was Clardy with them? Mr. MONTGOMERY. Clardy was down there if he wasn’t with them--I just don’t know. I know there was four or five of them there that went up, Cutchshaw, Lowery. Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do after---- Mr. MONTGOMERY. Well, we went back over to where Oswald was. The ambulance came in and we--of course, they picked up the stretcher that he was on and took it to the ambulance. Mr. GRIFFIN. Uh-huh. Mr. MONTGOMERY. And several of the detectives got inside the ambulance and went with the ambulance to Parkland. I went over and got in Captain Fritz’ car, Beck and Captain Fritz and Brown and myself went out to Parkland Hospital. Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do when you got to Parkland Hospital? Mr. MONTGOMERY. Well, first got there, of course, we went into the emergency room and they took Oswald back to one of the emergency treatment rooms, and we--or some captain told us to watch the doors, you know, make sure no one came in or went out other than doctors and nurses, which we did that until they transferred him up to the operating room. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, at Parkland Hospital did you hear any rumors about how Ruby got into the station. Mr. MONTGOMERY. Well, I don’t know if I heard it out there or where. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now---- Mr. MONTGOMERY. I guess I did. I probably heard it out at Parkland. Mr. GRIFFIN. I take it that what you are about to talk about is the first rumor that you heard? Mr. MONTGOMERY. About the only one I ever heard. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. Mr. MONTGOMERY. He just walked down there as one of the officers was backing the car out. There was a car down there that had to back out the Main Street ramp. As they were backing it out, the officers that were lined up here on the ramp right here [indicating] as security, were assisting this car out, because the ramp was coming, you know, the wrong way there. And they were assisting that car out. Evidently went down there then. Mr. GRIFFIN. There were a number of rumors that were circulating. Did you ever hear the rumor that he got in with the press pass? Mr. MONTGOMERY. No; I--not press pass. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you hear any rumor that he got out of a police car? Mr. MONTGOMERY. No; I hadn’t heard that one. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever hear the rumor that he came in with some TV cameras? Mr. MONTGOMERY. Yes; I heard that he picked up one and brought it down there. That’s right. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, trying to probe your memory, try to tell us exactly as you can just what you knew, or what rumors you heard at Parkland Hospital and if you don’t really have an accurate memory about it at all, I would like to know when you feel most certain that you knew something about how Ruby got into the jail. Mr. MONTGOMERY. I don’t recall exactly when I heard the rumor; how he got down there. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did you remain in Parkland Hospital? Mr. MONTGOMERY. I guess an hour. We were there an hour.