Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever have occasion to meet Mike Shore? Mr. CRAFARD. I’m not sure, sir. I believe he was in the club. I’m not positive. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever have occasion to meet Buddy Heard? Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t recall, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Do you recall where Mike Shore lived? Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir; I don’t. Mr. HUBERT. Let me ask you to state again what this entry in connection with Mike Shore pertained to? Mr. CRAFARD. The number would be a number where Jack Ruby could be reached but he didn’t want me to give the number to anyone but Mike Shore. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever call that number, ED-51266? Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t believe so, sir. Mr. HUBERT. Was the number ED-51266 entered into this book the first day that you got the book? Mr. CRAFARD. It was within the first 2 or 3 days, I’m positive of that. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever have occasion to call Jack Ruby at that number? Mr. CRAFARD. Not that I recall. I don’t remember making a call at that number. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Jack say anything to you which would indicate how often he visited the premises that that telephone number was located at? Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you have a specific recollection of the conversation that you had with Jack which resulted in making this entry in the book? Mr. CRAFARD. I believe it was over the telephone, and he called in, and I believe I said something about Mike Shore had called wanting to talk to him, and he give me that number and told me to give it to Mike Shore only. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he indicate whether he would be at that number only that day or for a short period of time, or whether he could be reached there every day, or what? Mr. CRAFARD. I believe it was just a couple hours that day. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, under the name “Mike Shore only” there is another line which has no writing on it, and then there is an entry “St. Charles FL 7-0520.” What is the significance of that? Mr. CRAFARD. I believe the name St. Charles is the last name of a gentleman that Jack Ruby knew, but I don’t recall ever meeting the gentleman or ever calling him to talk to. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall how that entry came to be put in the book? Mr. CRAFARD. No, other than the fact that Jack give me the number. I believe there is reference to that same number further on in the book. Mr. GRIFFIN. Perhaps when we get to it we can discuss it at that point. Mr. CRAFARD. All right. Mr. GRIFFIN. I am going to turn over page one then. There are no further entries on page one, are there? Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. And we will look at the reverse side of page one. Now, there is a name written here “Abe”—— Mr. CRAFARD. Klinman. Mr. GRIFFIN. How is that spelled? Mr. CRAFARD. K-l-i-n-m-a-n. Mr. GRIFFIN. Who is Abe Klinman? Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t know what his position was or what he done for a living, but I believe I met him at the club. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was he a local Dallas citizen? Mr. CRAFARD. I believe so, yes.