Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Mickey have anything to do with the sale of twist boards? Mr. CRAFARD. Not that I know of. Mr. GRIFFIN. What was Mickey’s relationship with Jack? Mr. CRAFARD. As far as I know they were just friends. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you have any view about Mickey as to whether he was a homosexual? Mr. CRAFARD. Mickey seemed to be pretty decent guy. As far as I could figure there was nothing of that sort there. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you ever learn how Mickey met Jack? Mr. CRAFARD. No; I didn’t. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did Mickey have any kind of business dealings with Jack? Mr. CRAFARD. Not that I know of, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. You mentioned that Jack had a bookkeeper. Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall what his name was? Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir; I don’t. Mr. GRIFFIN. But that wasn’t Mickey Ryan? Mr. CRAFARD. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was that a friend of Mickey Ryan’s? Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t know, sir. It might have been. Mr. GRIFFIN. Mr. Hubert, do you have any questions. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know what Mickey Ryan’s occupation was? Mr. CRAFARD. As far as I knew, sir, he was a bartender. Mr. HUBERT. Where? Mr. CRAFARD. It was a club called there a couple of days, a couple of different times asking for Mickey. I believe it was at the Gun Club where he went to work. When I first met him he was unemployed and then he went to work afterwards. Mr. HUBERT. It was your impression that he went to work as a bartender at the Gun Club. Mr. CRAFARD. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. You formed that impression from what he told you? Mr. CRAFARD. When they called they called asking for him and they said they wanted him in reference to a job, and he said he was trying to get a job as a bartender. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember his having told you that he had gotten the job? Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir; that is the reason I formed the impression that he had been a bartender. Mr. HUBERT. He told you so. Mr. CRAFARD. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. I want to go back to that top entry on page 3 “see Paul”—— Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me finish up on Mickey Ryan a second. Do you know what kind of a club this Gun Club was? Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir; I had never been there. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was it just a bar or was it a place where people went to shoot skeet or trap or something like that? Mr. CRAFARD. I don’t know, sir. I believe the call came in as the Hunt Club or something like that or Hunter’s Club or something of that sort, the call came in. Mr. GRIFFIN. So you are not sure that the name of the club is the Gun Club? Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir. Mr. GRIFFIN. And do you have any idea where that club is located? Mr. CRAFARD. It is near Dallas somewhere but that is all I know. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you know if it is in downtown Dallas or in the outskirts or what? Mr. CRAFARD. I believe that was on the outskirts of Dallas. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would this have been a country club, a golf club of some sort? Mr. CRAFARD. It might have been; yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right, I am finished with that.