Mr. SENATOR. No; with Corbat I paid him very little. I’ll tell you when I paid him very little, though. I paid him very little when I first moved in with him, because I had no money. Mr. HUBERT. And then you got—— Mr. SENATOR. Then when I moved, when I was able to a little, we went on a 50-50 basis. Mr. HUBERT. That is when you moved to South Ewing? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Which was in August of 1962? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Where were you making money at that time? Mr. SENATOR. The cards. My half of the rent was $62.50 a month and his half. In other words, it ran about $15 a week, approximately. Mr. HUBERT. And you earned enough to pay your half by selling postcards? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; I was in the postcards. Mr. HUBERT. That is what business? What company is that? Mr. SENATOR. Texas Postcard & Novelty Co. Mr. HUBERT. How long were you with them? Mr. SENATOR. I was sales manager, whatever that means. Mr. HUBERT. How long were you with them? Mr. SENATOR. August of 1962 until November of 1963. Mr. HUBERT. What part of November? Mr. SENATOR. The latter part of November. Mr. HUBERT. You mean you ceased your employment with them after Oswald was shot? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; this is when I fell apart with the incident. Mr. HUBERT. What were you making then? Mr. SENATOR. $75 a week, but $61.45, that is my actual draw. Mr. HUBERT. That was your actual draw? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. In cash? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Roughly $250 a month? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. I think you said you paid your half of the rent with Corbat? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; $15 a week, $16 a week, or whatever it was. Mr. HUBERT. And then when you lost that employment—just a minute; you had not lost that employment at the time you moved in with Ruby, because you say that that employment—— Mr. SENATOR. No, no, no; you mean prior to—— Mr. HUBERT. To the shooting. Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. You were still working with them? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. And you were still drawing that pay? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. What did you mean when you said a little while ago that you were on a handout basis with Ruby since you were making $250? Mr. SENATOR. No; I am referring to the first time. Mr. HUBERT. Oh, I see. Mr. SENATOR. That was in 1962. Mr. HUBERT. You were living in another place? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; in 1962. Mr. HUBERT. But with reference to the last time you lived with Ruby; that is to say, commencing the beginning of November of 1963? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. You were—— Mr. SENATOR. I was under pressure those 2 months because the rent—you know, when you switch from $62.50 to $125 you are going broke. Mr. HUBERT. From the time you left Corbat until you moved with Ruby—— Mr. SENATOR. I struggled for the 2 months, and Jack Ruby said to move in, so I moved in. Mr. HUBERT. And were you supposed to pay any part? Mr. SENATOR. With Jack, no. Mr. HUBERT. The arrangement was that you were not to pay anything?