Mr. GRIFFIN. Covering territory? Mr. SENATOR. Yes, they were with a top house. I didn’t stay with them long and I wasn’t making any money with them. Mr. GRIFFIN. What company was that? Mr. SENATOR. Junior Age. I don’t believe they are in business any more. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long would you say you were with them? Mr. SENATOR. It may have been 3 months. I don’t know, 2 months, 4 months. I’m not sure. It wasn’t too long. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were you on a straight commission with them? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. No, a draw against commission. Mr. GRIFFIN. A draw against commission? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. But if you didn’t make your draw, you were in the hole with them and had to pay it back supposedly, somehow? Mr. SENATOR. I didn’t pay it back, but I was in the hole, yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. But after you left this dress house, who did you work for next? Mr. SENATOR. I’m trying to think from the time there until Rhea. I know I did some odd things. I was with Rhea—— Mr. HUBERT. Were these odd things always in the same line, or did you get into other lines? Mr. SENATOR. No. I worked in a little bare place, I think I lasted, I worked there for about 6 weeks once at hardly nothing, just to keep me going. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was that in Dallas? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. And that was before you worked for Rhea, or was it? Mr. SENATOR. No. I think that was after. I think that was after I worked for Rhea. Mr. HUBERT. How long did the Rhea employment last? Mr. SENATOR. I may have been with them maybe a year, year and a half, I’m not sure now. Mr. HUBERT. Did you make any money off of that? Mr. SENATOR. Just a draw part. Mr. HUBERT. Were you on the handout basis when you were working for Rhea, that is to say, handout with your roommates, or did you have enough money then to pay your fair share? Mr. SENATOR. Oh, no; I paid my fair share as long as I was—— Mr. HUBERT. So when you are talking about the handouts—— Mr. SENATOR. The handouts is when I was completely out. Mr. HUBERT. You didn’t have any employment at all? Mr. SENATOR. No, I was completely out. Mr. HUBERT. That was for about a year, year and a half? Mr. SENATOR. I would say about a year and a half at a rough guess. Mr. HUBERT. When did that begin and when did that end, that year and a half? Let’s look at it this way: You were not working at the time you were living with Ruby, were you, that is to say you were not making any money? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. You were not contributing? Mr. SENATOR. No. Ruby gave me handouts. Mr. HUBERT. That is right? Mr. SENATOR. Certainly. Mr. HUBERT. So that is a year and a half back from November of 1963, is it not, roughly? Mr. SENATOR. No, I was with this Volume Sales like you mentioned before. Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Mr. SENATOR. I was with them. Now, I was with Volume for maybe about 9 months, I think. Mr. HUBERT. Let’s take the time that you were with Corbat. Was that on a handout basis too, or did you pay your fair share then?