Mr. SENATOR. I just don’t recall. All I know is that he reads the—of course, I am certain he reads all of the paper, you know, or various parts, but he would talk about show business a lot with me, see. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever hear him discuss at all any international incident? Mr. SENATOR. I just can’t think offhand. I don’t say he did or didn’t. I just can’t think offhand if he did or didn’t. Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever seek to engage him in small talk, shall we say, about subjects of that nature? Mr. SENATOR. Well, he talked about the President. I remember once we were watching a picture of President Kennedy’s kid going between the desk. He thought that was so wonderful, you know, enjoyed over that. I remember that distinctly. Mr. HUBERT. You mean he saw that on TV? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; this he marveled over. But the discussion, we never went into papers too much. He was mainly, I know when he grabbed the paper the first thing he would go to is the show part of it, his competitors, the show part of it, the night life, Tony Zoppi, with a nightclub. He is like, I don’t know how to compare him, to somebody who writes a column in New York. Mr. HUBERT. You don’t recall in all of the years you have known Jack of his being interested in international affairs to the point that you can remember any discussion with him? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. At all? Mr. SENATOR. I really can’t think offhand. I don’t say that he probably hadn’t, but I just don’t think offhand. Mr. HUBERT. You don’t remember any such discussions? Mr. SENATOR. I don’t; no. Mr. HUBERT. Now what would be your impression, knowing Jack as a whole, of his interest in international affairs? Mr. SENATOR. I don’t know. Mr. HUBERT. The reason I asked you that, although I realize it is an opinion question, is because you have been able to give us your opinion on other aspects of his life and character, for instance, that he was a man who was not a homosexual, and so forth, and you based your opinions upon your experience with him, and this is just another aspect of his character, that is all. Now I am simply asking you what is your opinion about his interest in communism or rightism or leftism or middle-of-the-roadism or any kind of ism. Mr. SENATOR. The only way I can refer to anything of that nature is the time we saw the billboards. Mr. HUBERT. You mean that was—— Mr. SENATOR. The impeachment of—— Mr. HUBERT. After the President was—— Mr. SENATOR. Right; this was the time that I saw—— Mr. HUBERT. We will get to that, but are you willing to say now, as far as you can remember, that that is the only time you ever saw him interested in a matter of that nature? Mr. SENATOR. You see, when he gets home at night, the first thing he heads for is the bathroom, and the paper goes with him, and from there on he sits there, I don’t know, 45 minutes reading the paper.