Mr. HUBERT. I appreciate your comment because it throws some light on it, but I would like to have an answer if you can give it to me to that question. I don’t know if I can rephrase it. (The previous question was read by the reporter.) Mr. HUBERT. Can you answer that question? Mr. SENATOR. I didn’t get that. Mr. HUBERT. Let’s see if I can rephrase it. You mentioned that you saw him interested in a matter that concerned an ism. I had previously asked you whether or not he had, to your knowledge, any interest in rightism, communism, leftism, middle-of-the-roadism, and you mentioned that one incident. Mr. SENATOR. Those, none whatsoever, because he is a lover of the country he lives in. He was never—— Mr. HUBERT. I suppose that would be called Americanism. Mr. SENATOR. Americanism. He loves the nation he is in. Mr. HUBERT. You formed that opinion, of course, on certain events or things that he told you. Can you refer to what those things would have been? Mr. SENATOR. No; I can’t, but I know that he has never belonged to any organizations. He has never attended any meetings to my knowledge, and this is the only way that I can in all reality base it. Mr. HUBERT. You say that he is a lover of his country. Now, did he say so or did he act in certain ways regarding certain instances that caused you to form that opinion? You see what I mean, any impression that you have about anybody is based upon your reactions to things said or done, and that is all I am asking you to say. Now you say he is a man who loves his country. I ask you, did you hear him say so or did you get that impression from things he did, or attitudes? Mr. SENATOR. I just take this for granted that he does, the same way as I take it that I know that I do. Mr. HUBERT. Of course, you know you do from your own experience, but on the other hand you don’t know about somebody else. Mr. SENATOR. I don’t know how to base it with him. I know he is very fond of the city he lived in. Mr. HUBERT. And how do you know that? Mr. SENATOR. Because he has told me he likes Dallas. He likes Dallas, he likes everything about it. He liked living there. He liked it because there wasn’t any hustle and bustle like any large, big city like New York or Chicago or California. Mr. HUBERT. Have you similar facts or experiences upon which to base your opinion that he is a lover of the United States as such? Mr. SENATOR. I can’t base it on anything. It is only what I think. And, of course, to my way of thinking I think everybody does. Mr. HUBERT. I think I am beginning to see what you mean. You assume that everybody loves their country. Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Unless there is something to the contrary. Mr. SENATOR. Sure. (Discussion off the record.) Mr. GRIFFIN. I want to ask some questions along that line. Mr. HUBERT. Go ahead and do it now unless you prefer to wait. Mr. GRIFFIN. No; I would just as soon, when you finish with an area, pick up from notes I have been making.