Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever hear of his brother Earl having a possible interest in it? Mr. SENATOR. Not that I know of. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know Earl? Mr. SENATOR. Sure. The first time I met Earl is, of course, when all this happened. Mr. HUBERT. You didn’t know him before that? Mr. SENATOR. Never seen him before in my life. Mr. HUBERT. What about Sam? Mr. SENATOR. Sam? I knew Sam. I have never seen him that often. Of course, I met Sam at the Vegas Club. Sam at one time worked there with Eva, and they couldn’t get along, so Sam was out, fighting like cats and dogs. Eva is just a hard girl to work for. Mr. HUBERT. What was Jack Ruby’s attitude toward the police as a group? Mr. SENATOR. Well, all I know is apparently he must like them. They always used to come to see him. Mr. HUBERT. Tell us about those who came to see him. Do you know who they were? Mr. SENATOR. I knew a lot of them by face. I didn’t know them all by name. Mr. HUBERT. Did they come frequently? Mr. SENATOR. Various ones, yes, every day. I don’t say it is the same ones, whoever was coming in, but they would either be plain clothes or police in uniforms. Mr. HUBERT. Did they come to inspect or to enjoy the club as a place of entertainment? Mr. SENATOR. Well, they came to inspect, to my knowledge I would say they came to inspect, but Jack always offered them a coffee, asked them if they wanted coffee, a Seven-Up or a Coke. Mr. HUBERT. Wasn’t it a rule in fact that they could get such little items as coffee and Cokes and Seven-Ups and soft drinks without cost? He gave them that? Mr. SENATOR. Yes; that was the nature of it. Mr. HUBERT. What was the arrangement about the entrance fee? They didn’t pay that, if they came socially? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. You have been on the door yourself? Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did you have any instructions on that? Mr. SENATOR. No, they didn’t pay entry. Mr. HUBERT. Did they pay for drinks? Mr. SENATOR. They had a special rate. Mr. HUBERT. What was it? Mr. SENATOR. I think 40 cents, or anybody that was a friend of his—in other words, for an example, your taxi drivers, the taxi drivers used to bring customers. In other words, an out-of-towner would say “where can you go,” they would say the Carousel or the Colony or wherever they may bring them. So they brought them up there, in other words, if they were off duty and wanted to come up, they were guests of Jack’s, and they paid a special price for drinks. Mr. HUBERT. And they didn’t pay the admission charge? Mr. SENATOR. No. Now the fellows who worked downstairs in the garage, they were allowed in, but at a special price. The special price was no different for anybody. It was all one price, the special. In other words, they gave them a discount on beer or the setups, whichever they were having, and your hotel bellcaps and things in that area, he always let them in free.