Mr. SENATOR. No; I’ll tell you why I don’t remember. When they grabbed me, they took me and shoved me into some little room all by myself, and I don’t wear a watch because I am allergic to watchbands. I can’t wear a watch. And I don’t know how long I was in this little room. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was that in the evening or the afternoon on Sunday? Mr. SENATOR. That was the afternoon. Mr. GRIFFIN. And had you talked with Jack Ruby up to that time, between the time of the shooting and the time that you were questioned by the police? Mr. SENATOR. The last time that I saw Jack Ruby is when he left Sunday morning. That is the last time. Mr. GRIFFIN. And you didn’t see him again on Sunday? Mr. SENATOR. Oh, I saw him when they waltzed me by. When the police got through with me they waltzed me by to the FBI, that is when I saw him through a glass. Mr. GRIFFIN. But never talked to him? Mr. SENATOR. No; couldn’t get near him. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you talk with his sister or with—— Mr. SENATOR. That day? Mr. GRIFFIN. Or with anybody else who had seen Jack? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Before you were questioned? Mr. SENATOR. No. I’ll tell you why. When I got out, when I got through with this whole thing that night, it was already dark outside, and I for one had never seen the shooting on TV, and I still have never seen it to this day, the shooting on TV, and I never saw the runs because they had me there that late. I don’t remember what time I got out that night, but I assume it was dark. It may have been around 7 o’clock. Mr. GRIFFIN. So between the time you left Jack Ruby back at the apartment on Sunday, and the time that the police first started to question you later on Sunday afternoon, you didn’t see Jack Ruby in that interval? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. At least to talk to? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see Eva Grant? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you see Tom Howard? Mr. SENATOR. Tom Howard? Mr. HUBERT. Let’s take a little recess at this point. (Short recess.) Mr. HUBERT. We will convene again after recess, with the same conditions and same understanding about the oath and so on. Now I think you said you came back home at 7:30 on Saturday night and you had bought some groceries and Ruby was not there. Mr. SENATOR. Right. Mr. HUBERT. You fixed yourself something to eat, and I believe you said that you left. Mr. SENATOR. No; first of all I was thinking that he might show up while I was—— Mr. HUBERT. You fixed enough I think you said for two people. Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. Did he come home before you left? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. What time did you leave? Mr. SENATOR. I left about maybe around 8, 8:30. As I say, I got to—— Mr. HUBERT. Did he have any phone calls prior to your leaving? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. Did you have any? Mr. SENATOR. No. Mr. HUBERT. Where did you go? Mr. SENATOR. From there I went downtown. I think I went to the Burgundy Room, if I am not mistaken, that night.