Warren Commission (14 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIV (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (14 of 26): Hearings Vol. XIV (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. HUBERT. That is in the Adolphus Hotel?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes; and I met a friend of mine there, and we were feeling
low. I was feeling low.
Mr. HUBERT. What is the name of the friend?
Mr. SENATOR. Bill Downey.
Mr. HUBERT. What is his occupation?
Mr. SENATOR. He is a traveling salesman who sells musical equipment and
all the other stuff that goes with it.
Mr. HUBERT. All right.
Mr. SENATOR. Let’s see now, and Mike Barclay. He is an attorney.
Mr. HUBERT. The three of you were together?
Mr. SENATOR. Went out.
Mr. HUBERT. The three of you were together you say?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes. We went out to a bar and we had a beer or two, and
everybody was low down and got disgusted, and they all wanted to go
home including myself.
Mr. HUBERT. So you all did so?
Mr. SENATOR. So we all went home, and I think I got home about 10:30.
Mr. HUBERT. Was Jack there then?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes. Jack was there. He had eaten, and he said he was
going out. Now, where he went I don’t know, but he said he was going
out.
Mr. HUBERT. Would you describe his condition then?
Mr. SENATOR. His condition was in the same thing it was in the past.
Mr. HUBERT. Was it like it was in the morning?
Mr. SENATOR. Yes. He was in that same kind of condition.
Mr. HUBERT. He was no worse?
Mr. SENATOR. Well, it is hard to say how much worse it was. He didn’t
look good.
Mr. HUBERT. The reason I asked that question is because——
Mr. SENATOR. You know when you say “worse,” I don’t know how to
put words together, you know, in expressions, the expression of an
individual’s face.
Mr. HUBERT. Let me show you what I mean. Perhaps you can help me when I
tell you what I have in mind. You have told us earlier that you thought
that his condition on Saturday morning was worse than it was on Friday
night and early Saturday morning.
Mr. SENATOR. Yes.
Mr. HUBERT. I think the expression you used, “the thing was getting
at him,” so that you formed the impression that the condition was
worsening, isn’t that correct? Is that a fair statement?
Mr. SENATOR. That is the way it looked; yes.
Mr. HUBERT. Now I ask you if you will give us a comparison.
Mr. SENATOR. I know what you are talking about, but I don’t know how to
compare these things, you know.
Mr. HUBERT. Was it worsening? Was it getting to him more? Did it seem
to be getting to him more Saturday night as opposed to 12 hours earlier
roughly Saturday morning?
Mr. SENATOR. I would probably say it was of the same nature or
something like that. It wasn’t good, because for me to try to express,
and I don’t know how to express a facial nature. It is just hard for
me to put in words. If you take the complete facial expression and the
eyes and all that, I am not a connoisseur at just being able to express
these things, you know.
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