Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Overage. They told me they had no more use for me. They apologized, I had a good record. I got an excellent discharge, they were sorry but they wanted a younger man in my place. Mr. GRIFFIN. What did you do after you left the service? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I stayed in Seattle. Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did you stay there? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. About 10 weeks. Mr. GRIFFIN. Then what did you do? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I signed up with the U.S. Army Engineers to go to Alaska, to go to work as a carpenter. I felt I wanted to do something. They were going to build barracks out there. I waited and waited and waited and I got tired of waiting, so I asked the company that hired me to release me, because they did not know when I would be put on a boat to go across. The Army would have allowed only two men, civilians, with the regular soldiers to go across Alaska at a time. Well, I probably would have been there for 4 years waiting yet so I decided to ask for a release, and they gave me a release and I went back to Chicago. Mr. GRIFFIN. So the 10 weeks you spent waiting? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I worked; I worked part time for the Seaboard Lumber Co. Mr. GRIFFIN. But the reason you were there was because you were waiting to go to Alaska? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Definitely. In fact, I had my tools sent to me, my father’s tools. Mr. GRIFFIN. Had you worked as a carpenter before? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Never. Mr. GRIFFIN. And on your return to Chicago what did you do? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I took odd jobs, whatever I could get to make a buck, you know, salesman on the road. I am trying to think what I sold, novelties, premiums, different things that you could get. A lot of items you couldn’t get, there was a scarcity, so you sold what you could obtain from different companies or different friends who were in business. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you work for any particular company? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I am trying to think. I can’t think of any particular company I worked for. I probably bought stuff myself and sold it on the road. Mr. GRIFFIN. I have in front of me your social security, a summary of your social security record. Do you remember working for the Arlington Park Jockey Club? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Oh, yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. When was that? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Ben Lindheimer--how did that work out, I am trying to think. I worked there just before I got in the service, and then I was drafted, that was the last job I believe I had at the Arlington Park Jockey Club. Mr. GRIFFIN. Your social security record indicates that you worked for the Arlington Park Jockey Club in 1943. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Then I probably went back there. Mr. GRIFFIN. In fact all of 1943, and in 1942 with the exception of the fourth quarter of 1942. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I was in the army for 6 months, how could that possibly be? Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. When did you go in the army in 1942? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. October. Mr. GRIFFIN. October. And when were you separated from the service in 1943? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. About April.