Mr. CROWE. The hotel, I mean the motel. The motel I had just moved into that noon. Mr. HUBERT. I understand you to say that you saw, actually witnessed the television film of Ruby shooting Oswald? Mr. CROWE. No; I never said that. Mr. HUBERT. How did you find out? Mr. CROWE. I was in the office checking into the motel when it came on TV and I had heard it. Mr. HUBERT. I see. When did you speak to Hoy? Mr. CROWE. Oh, a couple minutes right after. Mr. HUBERT. Why did you do so? Mr. CROWE. Well, because he was in news and a friend of mine, you know, and I figured he would be interested in knowing if he had heard over the teletype or something. Mr. HUBERT. So that actually the crystallization of these four coincidences came sooner than the time that you met the radio people in front of the club? Mr. CROWE. That is what I said. From the time I was driving from the motel to the club. Mr. HUBERT. And you placed the call from the motel? Mr. CROWE. Right. Mr. HUBERT. So that you called Hoy prior to? Mr. CROWE. The crystallization of these ideas and coincidences. Mr. HUBERT. Why did you call him then? Mr. CROWE. Because Oswald had just been shot. Mr. HUBERT. At that time you told me the series of coincidences had not yet crystallized because they crystallized you said a moment ago after this call? Mr. CROWE. That is right. Mr. HUBERT. Well, then what was the purpose of calling Hoy? Mr. CROWE. Because Oswald had just been shot. Mr. HUBERT. And solely for that purpose? Mr. CROWE. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. As a matter of fact though, you did mention to Hoy, didn’t you, that you thought you had seen Oswald in the club? Mr. CROWE. Not on that call. Mr. HUBERT. You did not? Mr. CROWE. Not until after. I called after that. I talked to him about three or four times that day. Mr. HUBERT. You mean you talked to him three or four times after the shooting of Oswald? Mr. CROWE. Yes. Mr. HUBERT. The first call, therefore, within a couple of minutes after you heard the news on TV was simply to advise him that Oswald had been shot? Mr. CROWE. Right. Mr. HUBERT. And you did not at that time tell him that you thought you might have seen Oswald in the club? Mr. CROWE. No. Mr. HUBERT. Your purpose, you stated, for calling Hoy the first time then was simply to advise him of a fact, to wit, that Oswald had been shot? Mr. CROWE. Right. Mr. HUBERT. Was it to advise him of the fact or to converse with him about it? Mr. CROWE. Well, him being a newsman you know call him and tell him about it if he hadn’t heard about it already. Mr. HUBERT. Didn’t it occur to you that this news event was going all over the country simultaneously? Mr. CROWE. Well, I knew it was in Dallas but I didn’t know whether it was in Evansville or not. Mr. HUBERT. How do you know Hoy? Mr. CROWE. Whether he was watching it on television or whether he was even watching television. Mr. HUBERT. How well do you know Hoy? Mr. CROWE. Very well.