Mr. HUBERT. Have you ever called him before to give him news of this sort? Mr. CROWE. No; I never had any news of this sort to give him. Mr. HUBERT. Were you childhood friends or something of that sort? Mr. CROWE. No; I met him--I knew of him and he knew of me but we actually really first met about 1958, I suppose. Mr. HUBERT. Are you quite certain that you did not speak to Hoy on the first call about your impression that Oswald might have been in the Carousel the week prior? Mr. CROWE. No. Mr. HUBERT. So that it is possible that you may have told him that on the very first call? Mr. CROWE. No; I mean no, I had not mentioned that to him on the first call. I have heard David Hoy state to others in front of me that I was the one that called him to tell him about Jack Ruby and what he was like and working with him. But that is all he has ever said. He has never said that I had called him and told him that I had seen Oswald in the club the week before, because I hadn’t. I hadn’t mentioned that to him until later on in the afternoon. Mr. HUBERT. Did you speak to a man by the name of Dale Burgess on that day who was with the radio station, I believe, or some news media in Evansville? Mr. CROWE. I don’t recall the name. I spoke to a newspaperman in Evansville. Mr. HUBERT. Who was that? Mr. CROWE. I don’t recall. Mr. HUBERT. When? Mr. CROWE. That same Sunday. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember the time? Mr. CROWE. No; I don’t. It would have had to have been, well, in the late afternoon, I guess. Mr. HUBERT. Is Evansville on central standard time or eastern time? Mr. CROWE. Central. Mr. HUBERT. What was the time of your second call to Mr. Hoy? Mr. CROWE. I don’t remember. Mr. HUBERT. Well, relative to the events which were taking place, considering that I think you said it was about noon, well, it was about 11:30 when you first called him and then you went down to the club---- Mr. CROWE. And then went to the---- Mr. HUBERT. Were interviewed by the newsmen and went to what you thought was Ruby’s house and came back. Mr. CROWE. Yes; and then to the television station. Mr. HUBERT. Television station and made a statement? Mr. CROWE. Was interviewed there, and then went back to the motel I guess, so that would be---- Mr. HUBERT. Was it at that time that you called Hoy? Mr. CROWE. I guess it would be about maybe three. Mr. HUBERT. What was the purpose of calling Hoy the second time? Mr. CROWE. To--I don’t remember whether I did call him or he called me. I know I spoke to him. Anyway, I told him about the series of coincidences. Mr. HUBERT. And that was the first time you had told him about that? Mr. CROWE. That was the first time; yes. Mr. HUBERT. Was that before or after you spoke to the other newsman from Evansville whose name you couldn’t remember? Mr. CROWE. I would say before. Mr. HUBERT. Then after you had talked to Hoy the second time is when you spoke to the newsman from Evansville?