Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No; it was right after I graduated from grammar school. Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, you say 1917. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; I was only 15½ when I graduated. Mr. GRIFFIN. You were born in 1901? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; close to 1902, though, you see. Mr. GRIFFIN. You don’t recall any juvenile court proceedings against you in the early part of 1916, in May of 1916. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall being under the supervision of a probation officer? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right, tell us about that. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t remember it. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you remember anything about the supervision, what did you have to do? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Nothing. Mr. GRIFFIN. You didn’t have to report? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Well, maybe I had to report but I don’t remember what the incident was. I don’t remember who the supervisor was or what I had to do to report. Mr. GRIFFIN. You don’t remember how the proceeding was instituted, who instituted, the proceeding against you? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I don’t remember. It is almost 50 years ago. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you return to the family in 1922? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I think I did. I wanted to stay with the family to see what I could do to keep them together. Mr. GRIFFIN. During the period that you were away from the family were other members of the family also separated? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; I think Earl and Sammy went to live on a farm. Jack went to live on the north side, northwest side. I don’t know about the girls. I don’t remember about the girls. Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall who Jack went to live with? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No; but it was a very nice family on the northwest side. That is where he met a lot of his northwest-side friends. Mr. GRIFFIN. Can you be more precise about the northwest side? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No; I couldn’t because I don’t know. Mr. GRIFFIN. Your mother was maintaining a home while you were at the boys club. Where was her home at the time? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. We moved to so many places, I wouldn’t know exactly, on the west side. Mr. GRIFFIN. On the west side? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; but I don’t remember the addresses. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would it be northwest? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No; straight west, around Roosevelt Road, that would be the best specific spot that I can give you. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you, during your childhood while the family was together, did you always live around Roosevelt Road? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes. Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you always live in the same ward? Do you remember in terms of wards where you lived? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No; it could be divided between the 24th ward and the 29th ward. Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. And one ward crossed the other, the boundary lines. Mr. GRIFFIN. All right. When you did return home about 1922 was your father living in the home at that time? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. No. Mr. GRIFFIN. When did your father finally come back to the home?