Mr. HUBERT. Captain Talbert initiated certain security measures on the morning of November 24. Is it your understanding that he was given any specific instructions, or was he just following the normal security precautions? Chief CURRY. Chief Batchelor and Chief Stevenson went down for the purpose of giving specific instructions, but when they arrived in the basement, he had already begun to set up security, so they didn’t just say “hold everything and let me give you this order.” They saw it was being taken care of. He had assumed command of the security and they just discussed with him then what was being done, but no specific order was issued to Captain Talbert “you go set up security in the basement.” Mr. HUBERT. Do I understand from that, that you had a conversation with Stevenson and Batchelor concerning the overall security problem? Chief CURRY. Up in the office, in the administrative office we had been talking, and Chief Batchelor or Chief Stevenson--one, I don’t recall which, said “Let’s go check the basement”, which I took to mean check the security of the basement. Mr. HUBERT. Was there a general discussion about the overall plan of the transfer, or who was it that worked it out? Chief CURRY. In general, it was worked out between myself, Chief Stevenson, Chief Batchelor, and Captain Fritz. Now I mean all of us discussed this. Not together, but I don’t recall who was present at each time something was mentioned, but I think that Chief Stevenson and Chief Batchelor were present, and I think in discussing it with Captain Fritz I was alone--that is, no other chief was present. Mr. HUBERT. When were the details of the transfer worked out? I mean the plan of transfer, how did it come about? Chief CURRY. What part exactly do you refer to? Mr. HUBERT. For instance, a decision as to when and how and who would be involved? Chief CURRY. As to when, would be made by Captain Fritz, because he was questioning the suspect and it was up to him to determine when he was ready to transfer Oswald. He had told me the day before that probably by 10 o’clock on this morning he would finish questioning Oswald and would be ready for a transfer. However, as you know, he was not ready at 10 o’clock, and we didn’t try to rush him or encourage him to speed it up. But on Sunday morning after the threats against Oswald’s life had been received, Chief Stevenson, Batchelor and myself decided that for security purposes it would be advisable to transfer Oswald in an armored truck. However, after these were obtained and provisions made to get, that is to get the armored car, and discussing it with Captain Fritz, he proposed to transfer him in a car with himself and some detectives for the purpose of maneuverability in the event that someone did try to get the prisoner from them.