It was then decided that the armored car would still be used, the same route followed by the armored car and the escort vehicles, but that the prisoner Oswald would be placed in a plain detective car with Captain Fritz and two other detectives, and with a car of detectives following. They would cut out of the group of vehicles as we crossed Main Street, and would proceed west on Main to the county jail. They would proceed west on Main to Houston Street, make a right turn and go into the county jail. The rest of the vehicles, including the armored cars, would proceed west on Elm Street to Houston Street, and turn south, but they would not go into the county jail building. Mr. HUBERT. Were any of those plans such as the route that would be used and the method discussed or formalized in any way at all prior to Sunday morning? Chief CURRY. No. Mr. HUBERT. I think you had a conversation with Sheriff Decker on Sunday morning. Do you remember the time of that, approximately? Chief CURRY. No, sir; I don’t. Mr. HUBERT. As I recall it, at that time it was not yet determined who was going to move him, is that correct? Chief CURRY. That’s right. Mr. HUBERT. In the conversation with Decker, or during that conversation, it was decided that it would be your responsibility to move him, is that correct? Chief CURRY. As I recall the conversation, I told Sheriff Decker that we were ready for him to have the prisoner, that you can come after him when you want to. And at that time he said, “I thought you were going to bring him to me.” And I said, “Well, either way you want it.” I said, “If you want us to bring him, we will bring him to you.” This is not an unusual procedure at all. Mr. HUBERT. So it was after that then, and it could not have been before that, that any plans of your own began to take shape? Chief CURRY. Security of the basement could; yes, because regardless of who took the man, the basement had to be secured. The particular route that would be followed would not be decided upon until that time, but this is no problem. We knew we had to go west on Main Street or Elm Street to get to the county jail, but we did, after it was decided that we would transfer him, make that plan to place more men on the Elm Street route to be sure that the convoy that would be en route would not in any way be hindered. Mr. HUBERT. In other words, you considered it your responsibility to secure the basement, irrespective of who actually moved him, you or the sheriff? Chief CURRY. That is true; yes. Mr. HUBERT. Was consideration ever given to any other route than through the basement? Chief CURRY. Not through the basement? Mr. HUBERT. Yes. Chief CURRY. Not that I recall. Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember visiting the basement with Chief Batchelor and Chief Stevenson? Chief CURRY. I seem to recall that one time we were there together, but as I remember they were in the basement as I drove in coming to work.