The chief’s office--the television people had opened the switchboard on the corridor and their technicians had attached their equipment to the electrical system, and they were pretty well set up. I do not know, but I assume that all this happened while all the top men in the department were out on the job. There was no reason for top-level people being in the police department headquarters during the time of the Kennedy visit. They each had other assignments. Mr. HUBERT. When you went there and saw the condition you just described, what time was it, about? Mr. CRULL. I guess I would say it was about 3:30 in the afternoon. Mr. HUBERT. Did you see any of the top officers of the police department there on the third floor when you arrived? Mr. CRULL. I can’t remember specifically. Later that afternoon, I talked to Chief Curry when he did return. Mr. HUBERT. Where did that conversation take place? Mr. CRULL. In his office in the police department. Mr. HUBERT. How long after your return? Mr. CRULL. I guess this was 30 or 40 minutes. About 4 o’clock in the afternoon. Mr. HUBERT. Had you left the building and gone back? Mr. CRULL. I had gone back to my office and come back again. He had been to the airport with the President’s body. At that time Chief Curry discussed the condition of things with the press, and I agreed with him that we would continue our policy of trying to cooperate with the press. Mr. HUBERT. Did he have a formal meeting with the press, or how did that take place? Mr. CRULL. No; but they were--the offices are small, and the corridor is not too big, and when you move that many television men and cameras and newspaper reporters into the corridor and into the offices, there was practically no space for anybody to work. Mr. HUBERT. Well, what I was thinking about was where this conference that you mentioned took place which apparently you witnessed between Curry and members of the press? Mr. CRULL. No; I gave you the wrong impression. It was a conference between me and the chief, and Chief Batchelor, his assistant. Mr. HUBERT. What was the nature of that conference? Mr. CRULL. The general situation. This was the first time I had had a chance to talk to Chief Curry, since he had left to go to the hospital after the President was killed, and we looked at the situation, and I agreed with the chief that we would continue to try to cooperate with the press, that there would have to be some order brought into the situation, but that it was important that the police department not be put in a position in which later people could charge that this man had been beaten, and had been kept under cover, and not been allowed to see him. Mr. HUBERT. Was any consideration given to moving the press out completely? Mr. CRULL. No; this could have been an alternative, but we did not consider it. Mr. HUBERT. You mentioned that there was some discussion about controlling the situation?