Mr. CRULL. We had to get them out of the offices and pushed back out into the corridor so people could work. They flooded into the chief’s office and the surrounding offices too. Mr. HUBERT. They had been in the offices of the various divisions? Mr. CRULL. No; at the end of that particular corridor are the top administrative offices, the office of the chief, the assistant chief, and the deputy chief, the four deputy chiefs, and his clerical help, and that is the office into which they had largely flooded. Mr. HUBERT. Was Oswald in custody on the third floor at that time? Mr. CRULL. He was--this is hearsay--I understand in custody in the homicide bureau at the other end of the hall on the same floor. Mr. HUBERT. Was any consideration given as to the effect of the congregation of the press in that area? Mr. CRULL. The press was not being allowed to go beyond the midpoint in the building. Mr. HUBERT. How was that controlled? Mr. CRULL. There were officers there. The homicide bureau was north of the midpoint in the bureau, and there was at that time and most of the time, I understand--again I am relying on hearsay--that that part of the corridor was kept comparatively free. Now I was there at one time, and I can’t say when, when they moved Oswald from homicide back up to the jail, I believe. At that time he was brought out through the corridor and did walk with the detectives holding him through the press, which was, or part of the press. Mr. HUBERT. Did you speak to any members of the press or otherwise gain any impression as to their attitude about what their rights were, and so forth? Mr. CRULL. I gained an impression from talking to some of the local newspapermen who came up to me and said, “Please don’t blame us for what is going on. We don’t act this way.” Mr. HUBERT. Could you tell us something about what those actions were that the local press seemed to be apologizing for? Mr. CRULL. This is something I don’t know of my own knowledge at all. Mr. HUBERT. I was thinking of what you yourself observed. Mr. CRULL. Crowding, pushing, and attempting to take over. The free and easy use of the electrical system, which I think I noticed that most. Mr. HUBERT. What was some example of that? Mr. CRULL. I didn’t check the details, but the switchboxes had been opened and the technicians pretty obviously had hooked on any place they could find a wire which would support the use. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know if any fuses were blown? Mr. CRULL. I was told that there were. Mr. HUBERT. Did you discuss with Chief Curry or any of the top officials of the police department the problem of the safety of the prisoner? Mr. CRULL. No. Mr. HUBERT. Did you discuss with them the problem of the matter of the ultimate transfer of the prisoner to the county jail when and if he were charged? Mr. CRULL. No. Mr. HUBERT. When did you leave the police department quarters on the 22d? Mr. CRULL. On Saturday?