Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; 1932 or 1933, right. So, I figured why should I waste my time. I can take care of my job and go to school, and I did that. I tried to get my prelegal training there. Then in 1932 the judge ran for governor. Ben Lindheimer became president of the--not president, chairman of the Commerce Commission, Illinois Commerce Commission. He took me with him. I became a warehouse investigator. I was there for 8 years. Mr. GRIFFIN. Warehouse investigator for the Illinois Commerce Commission? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Right. Mr. GRIFFIN. For 8 years? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Right. Mr. GRIFFIN. What period of time did this cover? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. I would say from 1932 to 1941. When the administration changed I was let go. Mr. GRIFFIN. Were your duties in Chicago or elsewhere? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. In Chicago; no, the entire State. I had to cover quite a bit of the State of Illinois inspecting warehouses that were licensed by the Illinois Commerce Commission, and storage houses. Mr. GRIFFIN. What would your duties as an inspector involve? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Just to see everything was orderly, clean, fire extinguishers, clean, clean aisles, nothing to clutter up, so as to prevent fires, fire doors, to prevent internal combustion, different things like that. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, during this period that you were with the Illinois Commerce Commission, were you politically active? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes. Since I had no civil service connections, I was politically active. Mr. GRIFFIN. Before that period, were you politically active? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Yes; in the local area. Mr. GRIFFIN. Was this Democratic or Republican politics? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Democratic. Mr. GRIFFIN. Now---- Mr. RUBENSTEIN. The whole family was Democratic. Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you tell us about how you happened to meet--I take it Mr. Feiwell was the way you got--made your political connections? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. Indirectly, not directly, indirectly. Mr. GRIFFIN. First of all, tell us how you happened to know Mr. Feiwell. Mr. RUBENSTEIN. He used to come down to the club and give us talks. Mr. GRIFFIN. What club was that? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. The Deborah Boys Club. Mr. GRIFFIN. I see. And what sort of work did Mr. Feiwell do? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. He was a big lawyer in Chicago. Mr. GRIFFIN. He took a liking to you? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. He wanted to encourage me because I was working my way through high school and he tried to help out all the boys that he possibly could. Mr. GRIFFIN. And he made introductions of you to people in politics? Mr. RUBENSTEIN. As I said before indirectly. Let me give you one example. Mr. GRIFFIN. Yes.