_He fishes some papers from his pocket._ TREBELL _sits squarely at his table to grapple with the matter._ TREBELL. Horsham told me you did accept them ... it's on that I'm joining. CANTELUPE. Yes ... in principle. TREBELL. Well ... we couldn't carry a bill you disapproved of, could we? CANTELUPE. [_With finesse._] I hope not. TREBELL. [_A little dangerously._] And I have no intention of being made the scapegoat of a wrecked Tory compromise with the Nonconformists. CANTELUPE. [_Calmly ignoring the suggestion._] So far as I am concerned I meet the Nonconformists on their own ground ... that Religion had better be free from all compromise with the State. TREBELL. Quite so ... if you're set free you'll look after yourselves. My discovery must be what to do with the men who think more of the state than their Church ... the majority of parsons, don't you think? ... if the question's really put and they can be made to understand it. CANTELUPE. [_With sincere disdain._] There are more profitable professions. TREBELL. And less. Will you allow me that it is statecraft to make a profession profitable? CANTELUPE _picks up his papers, avoiding theoretical discussion._ CANTELUPE. Well now ... will you explain to me this project for endowing Education with your surplus? TREBELL. Putting Appropriation, the Buildings and the Representation question on one side for the moment? CANTELUPE. Candidly, I have yet to master your figures.... TREBELL. The roughest figures so far. CANTELUPE. Still I have yet to master them on the first two points. TREBELL. [_Firmly premising._] We agree that this is not diverting church money to actually secular uses. CANTELUPE. [_As he peeps from under his eyelids._] I can conceive that it might not be. You know that we hold Education to be a Church function. But.... TREBELL. Can you accept thoroughly now the secular solution for all Primary Schools? CANTELUPE. Haven't we always preferred it to the undenominational? Are there to be facilities for _any_ of the teachers giving dogmatic instruction? TREBELL. I note your emphasis on any. I think we can put the burden of that decision on local authorities. Let us come to the question of Training Colleges for your teachers. It's on that I want to make my bargain. CANTELUPE. [_Alert and cautious._] You want to endow colleges? TREBELL. Heavily. CANTELUPE. Under public control? TREBELL. Church colleges under Church control. CANTELUPE. There'd be others? TREBELL. To preserve the necessary balance in the schools. CANTELUPE. Not founded with church money? TREBELL. Think of the grants in aid that will be released. I must ask the Treasury for a further lump sum and with that there may be sufficient for secular colleges ... if you can agree with me upon the statutes of those over which you'd otherwise have free control. TREBELL _is weighing his words._ CANTELUPE. "You" meaning, for instance ... what authorities in the Church?