O.M. Yes. It is merely a symbol, it has no _material _value; you think you desire it for its own sake, but it is not so. You desire it for the spiritual content it will bring; if it fail of that, you discover that its value is gone. There is that pathetic tale of the man who labored like a slave, unresting, unsatisfied, until he had accumulated a fortune, and was happy over it, jubilant about it; then in a single week a pestilence swept away all whom he held dear and left him desolate. His money’s value was gone. He realized that his joy in it came not from the money itself, but from the spiritual contentment he got out of his family’s enjoyment of the pleasures and delights it lavished upon them. Money has no _material _value; if you remove its spiritual value nothing is left but dross. It is so with all things, little or big, majestic or trivial—there are no exceptions. Crowns, scepters, pennies, paste jewels, village notoriety, world-wide fame—they are all the same, they have no _material _value: while they content the _spirit _they are precious, when this fails they are worthless. _A Difficult Question_ Y.M. You keep me confused and perplexed all the time by your elusive terminology. Sometimes you divide a man up into two or three separate personalities, each with authorities, jurisdictions, and responsibilities of its own, and when he is in that condition I can’t grasp it. Now when _I_ speak of a man, he is _the whole thing in one, _and easy to hold and contemplate. O.M. That is pleasant and convenient, if true. When you speak of “my body” who is the “my”? Y.M. It is the “me.” O.M. The body is a property then, and the Me owns it. Who is the Me? Y.M. The Me is _the whole thing; _it is a common property; an undivided ownership, vested in the whole entity. O.M. If the Me admires a rainbow, is it the whole Me that admires it, including the hair, hands, heels, and all? Y.M. Certainly not. It is my _mind _that admires it. O.M. So _you _divide the Me yourself. Everybody does; everybody must. What, then, definitely, is the Me? Y.M. I think it must consist of just those two parts—the body and the mind. O.M. You think so? If you say “I believe the world is round,” who is the “I” that is speaking? Y.M. The mind. O.M. If you say “I grieve for the loss of my father,” who is the “I”? Y.M. The mind. O.M. Is the mind exercising an intellectual function when it examines and accepts the evidence that the world is round? Y.M. Yes. O.M. Is it exercising an intellectual function when it grieves for the loss of your father? Y.M. That is not cerebration, brain-work, it is a matter of _feeling_. O.M. Then its source is not in your mind, but in your _moral _territory? Y.M. I have to grant it. O.M. Is your mind a part of your _physical _equipment? Y.M. No. It is independent of it; it is spiritual. O.M. Being spiritual, it cannot be affected by physical influences? Y.M. No. O.M. Does the mind remain sober with the body is drunk?