The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11)
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_A._ Not above two or three days; and then were brought from London to
the Parliament House by water in great triumph, guarded with a
tumultuous number of armed men, there to sit in security in despite of
the King, and make traitorous acts against him, such and as many as they
listed; and under favour of these tumults, to frighten away from the
House of Peers all such as were not of their own faction. For at this
time the rabble was so insolent, that scarce any of the bishops durst go
to the House for fear of violence upon their persons: in so much as
twelve of them excused themselves of coming thither; and by way of
petition to the King, remonstrated that they were not permitted to go
quietly to the performance of that duty, and protesting against all
determinations, as of none effect, that should pass in the House of
Lords during their forced absence. Which the House of Commons taking
hold of, sent up to the Peers one of their members, to accuse them of
high-treason. Whereupon ten of them were sent to the Tower; after which
time there were no more words of their high-treason; but there passed a
bill by which they were deprived of their votes in Parliament, and to
this bill they got the King’s assent. And, in the beginning of September
after, they voted that the bishops should have no more to do in the
government of the Church; but to this they had not the King’s assent,
the war being now begun.
_B._ What made the Parliament so averse to episcopacy; and especially
the House of Lords, whereof the bishops were members? For I see no
reason why they should do it to gratify a number of poor parish priests,
that were Presbyterians, and that were never likely any way to serve the
Lords; but, on the contrary, to do their best to pull down their power,
and subject them to their synods and classes.
_A._ For the Lords, very few of them did perceive the intentions of the
Presbyterians; and, besides that, they durst not, I believe, oppose the
Lower House.
_B._ But why were the Lower House so earnest against them?
_A._ Because they meant to make use of their tenets, and with pretended
sanctity to make the King and his party odious to the people, by whose
help they were to set up democracy and depose the King, or to let him
have the title only so long as he should act for their purposes. But not
only the Parliament, but in a manner all the people of England, were
their enemies, upon the account of their behaviour, as being, they said,
too imperious. This was all that was colourably laid to their charge;
the main cause of pulling them down, was the envy of the Presbyterians,
that incensed the people against them, and against episcopacy itself.
_B._ How would the Presbyterians have the Church to be governed?
_A._ By national and provincial synods.
_B._ Is not this to make the national assembly an archbishop, and the
provincial assemblies so many bishops?