The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11)
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_B._ This is a downright declaration to all kings and commonwealths in
general, that a Presbyterian minister will be a true subject to none of
them in the things of Christ; which things what they are, they will be
judges themselves. What have we then gotten by our deliverance from the
Pope’s tyranny, if these petty men succeed in the place of it, that have
nothing in them that can be beneficial to the public, except their
silence? For their learning, it amounts to no more than an imperfect
knowledge of Greek and Latin, and an acquired readiness in the Scripture
language, with a gesture and tone suitable thereunto; but of justice and
charity, the manners of religion, they have neither knowledge nor
practice, as is manifest by the stories I have already told you. Nor do
they distinguish between the godly and the ungodly but by conformity of
design in men of judgment, or by repetition of their sermons in the
common sort of people.
_A._ But this sullenness of the Scots was to no purpose. For they at
Westminster enacted the union of the two nations and the abolition of
monarchy in Scotland, and ordained punishment for those that should
transgress that act.
_B._ What other business did the Rump this year?
_A._ They sent St. John and Strickland ambassadors to the Hague, to
offer league to the United Provinces; who had audience March the 3rd;
St. John in a speech showing those states what advantage they might have
by this league in their trade and navigations, by the use of the English
ports and harbours. The Dutch, though they showed no great forwardness
in the business, yet appointed commissioners to treat with them about
it. But the people were generally against it, calling the ambassadors
and their followers, as they were, traitors and murderers, and made such
tumults about their house that their followers durst not go abroad till
the States had quieted them. The Rump advertised hereof, presently
recalled them. The compliment which St. John gave to the commissioners
at their taking leave, is worth your hearing. _You have_, said he, _an
eye upon the event of the affairs of Scotland, and therefore do refuse
the friendship we have offered. Now I can assure you, many in the
Parliament were of opinion that we should not have sent any ambassadors
to you till we had separated those matters between them and that king,
and then expected your ambassadors to us. I now perceive our error, and
that those gentlemen were in the right. In a short time you shall see
that business ended; and then you will come and seek what we have freely
offered, when it shall perplex you that you have refused our proffer._
_B._ St. John was not sure that the Scottish business would end as it
did. For though the Scots were beaten at Dunbar, he could not be sure of
the event of their entering England, which happened afterward.