The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11) — Thomas Hobbes — John Shaqi
The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 06 (of 11)
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_P._ When a man assaults me with a knife, sword, club, or other mortal
weapon, does any law forbid me to defend myself, or command me to stay
so long as to know whether he have a felonious intent, or no? Therefore
by this statute, in case it be found _se defendendo_, the forfeiture is
discharged; if it be found otherwise, it is capital. If we read the
statute of _Glocester_, _cap._ 9, I think it will take away the
difficulty. For by that statute, in case it be found by the country that
he did it in his own defence or by misfortune, then by the report of the
justices to the King, the King shall take him to his grace, if it please
him. From whence it followeth, first, that it was then thought law, that
the jury may give the general verdict of _se defendendo_; which Sir
Edward Coke denies. Secondly, that the judge ought to report especial
matter to the King. Thirdly, that the King may take him to his grace, if
he please; and consequently, that his goods are not to be seized, till
the King, after the report of the judge heard, give the sheriff command
to do it. Fourthly, that the general verdict of the King hinders not the
King but that he may judge of it upon the special matter; for it often
happens that an ill-disposed person provokes a man with words or
otherwise, on purpose to make him draw his sword, that he may kill him,
and pretend it done in his own defence; which appearing, the King may,
without any offence to God, punish him, as the cause shall require.
Lastly, contrary to the doctrine of Sir Edward Coke, he may in his own
person be judge in the case, and annul the verdict of the jury; which a
deputed judge cannot do.
_L._ There be some cases wherein a man, though by the jury he be found
not guilty, shall nevertheless forfeit his goods and chattels to the
King. For example; a man is slain, and one A, hating B, giveth out that
it was B that slew him; B hearing thereof, fearing if he be tried for
it, that through the great power of A, and others that seek his hurt, he
should be condemned, flieth, and afterwards is taken and tried; and upon
sufficient evidence is by the jury found not guilty; yet because he
fled, he shall forfeit his goods and chattels, notwithstanding there be
no such judgment given by the judge, nor appointed by any statute; but
the law itself authoriseth the sheriff to seize them to the use of the
King.
_P._ I see no reason (which is common-law) for it, and am sure it is
grounded upon no statute.
_L._ See Sir Edward Coke, 1 _Inst._ _s._ 709, and read.