The English works of Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury, Volume 07 (of 11)
Thomas Hobbes · en
Again, you object and ask: “What need is there of motion, or of body
moved, to make a man understand what is a line? Are not lines in a body
at rest, as well as in a body moved? And is not the distance of two
resting points length, as well as the measure of the passage? Is not
length one and a simple dimension, and one and a simple dimension line?
Why then is not line and length all one?” See how impertinent these
questions are. Euclid defines a sphere to be a solid figure described by
the revolution of a semicircle about the unmoved diameter. Why do you
not ask, what need there is to the understanding of what a sphere is, to
bring in the motion of a semicircle? Is not a sphere to be understood
without such motion? Is not the figure so made a sphere without this
motion? And where he defines the axis of a sphere to be that unmoved
diameter, may not you ask, whether there be no axis of a sphere, when
the whole sphere, diameter and all, is in motion? But it is not to my
purpose to defend my definition by the example of that of Euclid.
Therefore first, I say, to me, howsoever it may be to others, it was fit
to define a line by motion. For the generation of a line is the motion
that describes it. And having defined philosophy in the beginning, to be
the knowledge of the properties from the generation, it was fit to
define it by its generation. And to your question, _is not distance
length?_ I answer, that though sometimes distance be equivalent to
length, yet certainly the distance between the two ends of a thread
wound up into a clue is not the length of the thread; for the length of
the thread is equal to all the windings whereof the clue is made. But if
you will needs have distance and length to be all one, tell me of what
the distance between any two points is the length. Is it not the length
of the way? And how is that called way, which is not defined by some
motion? And have not several ways between the same places, as by land
and by water, several lengths? But they have but one distance, because
the distance is the shortest way. Therefore between the length of the
path, and the distance of places, there is a real difference in this
case, and in all cases a difference of the consideration. Your
objection, that line is longitude, proceeds from want of understanding
English. Do men ever ask what is the line of a thread, or the line of a
table, or of any other body? Do they not always ask what is the length
of it? And why, but because they use their own judgments, not yet
corrupted by the subtlety of mistaken professors. Euclid defines a line
to _be length without breadth_. If those terms be all one, why said he
not that a _line is a line without breadth_? But what definition of a
line give you? None. Be contented then with such as you receive, and
with this of mine, which you shall presently see is not amiss.