Once more, Socrates, I will ask you to consider another way of speaking about justice and injustice, which is not confined to the poets, *364A* but is found in prose writers. The universal voice of mankind is always declaring that justice and virtue are honourable, but grievous and toilsome; and that the pleasures of vice and injustice are easy of attainment, and are only censured by law and opinion. They say also that honesty is for the most part less profitable than dishonesty; and they are quite ready to call wicked men happy, and to honour them both in public and private when they are rich or in any other way influential, while they despise and overlook *364B* those who may be weak and poor, even though acknowledging them to be better than the others. But most extraordinary of all is their mode of speaking about virtue and the gods: they say that the gods apportion calamity and misery to many good men, and good and happiness to the wicked. And mendicant prophets go to rich men's doors and persuade them that they have a power committed to them by the gods of making an atonement for a man's own or his ancestor's *364C* sins by sacrifices or charms, with rejoicings and feasts; and they promise to harm an enemy, whether just or unjust, at a small cost; with magic arts and incantations binding heaven, as they say, to execute their will. And the poets are the authorities to whom they appeal, now smoothing the path of vice with the words of Hesiod;-- {44} 'Vice may be had in abundance without trouble; *364D* the way is smooth and her dwelling-place is near. But before virtue the gods have set toil[6],' and a tedious and uphill road: then citing Homer as a witness that the gods may be influenced by men; for he also says:-- 'The gods, too, may be turned from their purpose; and men pray to them and avert their wrath by sacrifices and *364E* soothing entreaties, and by libations and the odour of fat, when they have sinned and transgressed[7].' And they produce a host of books written by Musaeus and Orpheus, who were children of the Moon and the Muses--that is what they say--according to which they perform their ritual, and persuade not only individuals, but whole cities, that expiations and atonements for sin may be made by sacrifices and amusements which fill a vacant hour, and are equally at the service of the living and the dead; the latter *365A* sort they call mysteries, and they redeem us from the pains of hell, but if we neglect them no one knows what awaits us. [Footnote 6: Hesiod, Works and Days, 287.] [Footnote 7: Homer, Iliad, ix. 493.] [Sidenote: The effects of all this upon the youthful mind.]