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Callicles and Polus, two friends of Gorgias, the famous orator of
Leontium in Sicily, happening to meet with Socrates and Chærephon, tell
the former that he has sustained a great loss in not having been just
now present when Gorgias was exhibiting his art. Chærephon admits that
the fault is his, but adds that as Gorgias is his friend he can easily
persuade him to exhibit to them either then, or at a future time. They
accordingly, all four, adjourn to the house of Callicles, where Gorgias
is staying. When arrived there, Chærephon, at the suggestion of
Socrates, proposes to question Gorgias as to the art he professes; but
Polus, his pupil, somewhat impertinently offers to answer for him, on
the ground that Gorgias is fatigued. Chærephon therefore asks, what is
the art in which Gorgias is skilled, and what he ought to be called? To
which Polus answers, “the finest of the arts.” Socrates, not satisfied
with this, as being no answer at all, begs Gorgias himself to answer. He
says, that rhetoric is the art he professes, and that he is a
rhetorician, and able to make others rhetoricians[45].
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Footnote 45:
§ 1-7.
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Socrates, having got Gorgias to promise that he would answer briefly,
proceeds to ask him about what rhetoric is employed, and of what it is
the science. Gorgias says, “of words,” but Socrates shews, that other
arts, in various degrees, make use of words, and that some, such as
arithmetic and geometry, are altogether conversant with words; he
therefore requests him to distinguish between these arts and rhetoric,
and to explain about what particular thing these words are employed.
Gorgias confidently answers, about “the greatest of all human concerns
and the best.” But the physician, the teacher of gymnastics, the
money-getter, in short all men, would say that the end which their own
art aims at is the best; what then is this good which you say is the
greatest good to men? Gorgias answers, that it is the power of
persuading by words. But Socrates objects that other arts do the same,
for that every one who teaches any thing persuades what he teaches; you
must therefore say of what kind of persuasion, and on what subject
rhetoric is the art. It is that which is produced in courts of justice,
and other public assemblies, and relates to matters that are just and
unjust. But here again Socrates makes Gorgias admit, that there are two
kinds of persuasion, one that produces belief without knowledge, the
other that produces knowledge; which of these two then does rhetoric
produce? doubtless the former. But supposing the question is about the
choice of physicians or shipwrights, or the building of walls, or the
construction of ports or docks, will a rhetorician be consulted, or a
person skilled in these several matters? Here Gorgias answers that on
these and all other subjects a rhetorician will speak more persuasively
than any other artist whatever: but it is his duty to use his art