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_Socr._ Should he, therefore, have more of these meats than we, because
he is better? Or, because he is chief, ought he not to distribute the
whole, but, in consuming and using them for his own body, not take more
than others, under pain of injury to himself, but should have more than
some, and less than others; and if he should happen to be the weakest of
all, though the best, he must have least of all, Callicles? Is it not
so, my friend?
100. _Cal._ You speak of meats and drinks, and physicians, and such
trifles; but I do not speak of these.
_Socr._ Whether, then, do you say that the more wise is better? Grant or
deny.
_Cal._ I do.
_Socr._ And do you not say that the better ought to have more?
_Cal._ Not of meats and drinks.
_Socr._ I understand. But perhaps of clothes, and the most skilful
weaver should have the largest garment, and go about most abundantly and
beautifully clad.
_Cal._ What garments do you mean?
_Socr._ And with respect to shoes, it is clear that he who is more
skilled and best, should have more than others; the shoemaker, perhaps,
ought to walk about with the largest and greatest number of shoes.
_Cal._ What shoes? Are you still trifling?
_Socr._ But if you do not mean such things, perhaps you do the
following: for instance, that a husbandman, wise and skilled in the
cultivation of land, should perhaps have more seeds than others, and use
as much as possible on his own land.
101. _Cal._ How constantly you repeat the same things, Socrates.
_Socr._ Not only so, Callicles, but on the same subject.
_Cal._ By the gods, you never cease talking about shoemakers, fullers,
cooks, and physicians, as if our discourse were about them.
_Socr._ Will you not tell me, then, with respect to what things a person
should be superior and more wise, who having more than others, justly
has more? Will you neither permit me to suggest, nor say yourself?
_Cal._ But I have said some time since. First, by the superior I do not
mean shoemakers, or cooks, but those who are skilled in the affairs of a
city, in what way they can be well administered, and not only skilled,
but also brave, able to accomplish what they have conceived, and who do
not fail through effeminacy of soul.
_Socr._ Do you see, most excellent Callicles, that you do not make the
same objection to me that I do to you? For you allege that I always say
the same things, and blame me for it; and I, on the contrary, complain
of you, that you never say the same things on the same subjects; but at
one time you defined the better and the superior to be the stronger, and
at another time the more wise: and now again you come with something
else; and certain persons that are braver are said by you to be the
superior and better. But, my friend, tell me once for all, whom you call
the better and superior, and in reference to what.