Mr. SOLBERG. The fees for the total calendar year were $78,518, of which the certificate fees were $14,043. The CHAIRMAN. What are the expenses of the office? Mr. SOLBERG. The total expenses of the office can not be given. The comparison given here is between the appropriations for service only, and I could give you that for the year. Mr. PUTNAM. That is for the fiscal year. In this case we have had to take the last fiscal year, with your permission. The CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. Mr. SOLBERG. The fees for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1905, were $78,058. The appropriations for service during the same period were $74,662.46--the appropriation expended for service, but the only element covered is service cost. It does not cover printing, stationery, or any supplies, nor the printing of the catalogue of entries, which include all registrations made at any fee, even if no certificate is paid for. That is estimated at $25,000 per year--the printer's estimate for printing. If that is included with all other expenses, the fees do not cover the total expenses of running the office. Mr. CHANEY. By how much? Mr. SOLBERG. I have not been able to ascertain the exact figures for printing, but I should suppose that the balance might be some thousands of dollars against the office. The CHAIRMAN. You have some figures, Mr. Remich; you made some statement earlier in your remarks upon that subject. Mr. REMICH. Yes, sir. I took this leaf from the report, and I will read it. This is the last year's report of the office: The earned fees paid into the Treasury for the year ($78,518) exceeded the amount expended for salaries, which was $74,600.37. The additional expenditures during the year for stationery and other supplies can not at this date be obtained from the chief clerk of the Library, but for the first six months of the year they amounted to but $309.63, and the year's contingent expenditures, therefore, should be under $1,000. The yearly average for the last five years has been $954.29. Then they say: The appropriations for 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, and the first half of the fiscal year 1906 include the sum of $25,740, to be used in bringing up the arrears of work prior to July 1, 1897, which amount should therefore be deducted from the total sum for appropriations for service as not properly a charge upon the current work of the office, leaving the excess of fees earned over appropriations used for service $125,675.39 for the eight and one-half years.