Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648. — John Shaqi
Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.Bradford, William
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Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.
Bradford, William
Pilgrims (New Plymouth Colony) -- Early works to 1800; Separatists
_Ancient men._--Truly, with due respect to such reverend men be it
spoken, those things might well have been spared from putting in
print, especially so long after his death, when not only he, but all
his friends are taken out of the world, that might vindicate his name.
That he was tainted with vices at the court before his conversion and
calling, it is not very strange; and if he had lived and died in that
condition, it is like he might have gone out of the world without any
public brand on his name, and have passed for a tolerable Christian and
member of the church. He had hurt enough done him, whilst he lived, by
evil and cruel enemies; why should godly men be prejudicated to him
after his death in his name? Was not the Apostle Paul a persecutor of
God’s saints unto death? And doth not the same Apostle, speaking of
scandalous and lascivious persons, say, “And such were some of you; but
ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name
of the Lord Jesus and by the spirit of our God.”
And if histories deceive us not, was not Cyprian a magician before his
conversion, and Augustine a Manichæan? And when it was said unto him
in the voice he heard, _Tolle et lege_, he was directed to that place
of Scripture, “Not in gluttony and drunkenness, nor in chambering and
wantonness, nor in strife and envying; but put ye on the Lord Jesus
Christ, and take no thought for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts of it.”
By which it may seem that if God do not make choice of such men as have
been infamous for gross vices before their calling, yet sometimes he
is wont to do it, and is free to choose whom he pleaseth for notable
instruments for his own work. As for other things that have been spoken
of him and Mr. Greenwood and Mr. Penry, we leave them as they are.
But some of us have reason to think there are some mistakes in the
relations of those things. Only we shall add other public testimonies
concerning them from witnesses of very worthy credit, which are also in
print.
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