Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.Bradford, William
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Governor Bradford's first dialogue : $b A dialogue, or the sum of a conference between some young men born in New England and sundry ancient men that came out of Holland and old England, anno Domini 1648.
Bradford, William
Pilgrims (New Plymouth Colony) -- Early works to 1800; Separatists
_Ancient men._--They can no more justly be called Brownists, than
the disciples might have been called Judasites; for they did as much
abhor Brown’s apostasy, and profane course, and his defection, as the
disciples and other Christians did Judas’s treachery.
And for their rigid and roughness of spirit, as some of them,
especially Mr. Barrow, is taxed, it may be considered they were very
rigidly and roughly dealt with, not only by the Lord’s enemies and
their enemies, but by some godly persons of those times, differing in
opinions from them; which makes some of us call to mind what one Doctor
Taylor hath written in a late book in these stirring times. “Such an
eminent man,” saith he, “hath had the good hap to be reputed orthodox
by posterity, and did condemn such a man of such an opinion, and yet
himself erred in as considerable matters; but meeting with better
neighbours in his life-time, and a more charitable posterity after his
death, hath his memory preserved in honor; and the other’s name suffers
without cause.” Of which he gives instances in his book entitled The
Liberty of Prophesying, page 33 and following.
We refer you to Mr. Robinson’s Answer to Mr. Bernard, where he charges
him with blasphemy, railing, scoffing, &c. “For Mr. Barrow,” saith
Mr. Robinson, “as I say with Mr. Ainsworth, that I will not justify
all the words of another man, nor yet mine own, so say I also with
Mr. Smith, that because I know not by what particular motion of the
Spirit he was guided to write in those phrases, I dare not censure him
as you do; especially considering with what fiery zeal the Lord hath
furnished such his servants at all times, as he hath stirred up for
special reformation. Let the example of Luther alone suffice, whom
into what terms his zeal carried, his writings testify; and yet both in
him and in Mr. Barrow there might be with true spiritual zeal fleshly
indignation mingled.” Answer to Mr. Bernard, folio 84.
And further in page 86 he saith, that “such harsh terms wherewith he
entertains such persons and things in the church as carry with them
most appearance of holiness, they are to be interpreted according to
his meaning, with this distinction, that Mr. Barrow speaks not of these
persons and things simply, but in a respect, and so and so considered;
and so no one term given by Mr. Barrow but may, at the least, be
tolerated.”
_Young men._--But divers reverend men have expressed concerning this
matter that God is not wont to make choice of men infamous for gross
sins and vices before their calling, to make them any instruments of
reformation after their calling, and proceed to declare that Mr. Barrow
was a great gamester and a dicer when he lived in court, and getting
much by play, would boast of loose spending it with courtesans, &c.
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