Mr. O’CONNELL. No, I wouldn’t say so. Actually, it is hard to put the picture in the pattern of that time, but the 1946 elections had been as we all recall quite disastrous to the Democrats, there was considerable dissension among some Democrats with President Truman, and there was a move from Democrats generally--I would say in the Progressive Party, as it existed particularly in 1948, the Progressive Party was not, did not have an officialdom or even a membership that you could say, “Well, this is identical with the Washington Pension Union.” For instance, I never held any office in the Washington Pension Union of any kind--I was executive secretary--Russell Fluent, who had just finished a term as Democratic treasurer was the chairman of the Progressive Party--L. C. Hunterer, who was Democratic sheriff in Olympia in Thurston County, was a national committeeman--and the Democratic national committeewoman from eastern Washington, who later became the national committeewoman of the Progressive Party from the State of Washington. Leadership in many counties was a leadership that moved from the county chairman and others and moved over from the Democratic Party into the Progressive Party. The leadership of the pension union, Pennock and Fisher and Nora McCoy, and others I recall there, if you consider Rabbitt---- Mr. TAVENNER. What was Fisher’s first name? Mr. O’CONNELL. Dr. C. H. Fisher. He had been president of Northern Washington Normal College, I think, at Bellingham. Mr. TAVENNER. Mr. O’Connell, I hand you a photostatic copy of a document and I will ask you to examine it, please, and state whether you know what it is. Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. Mr. TAVENNER. What is it? Mr. O’CONNELL. As I understand, it purports to be a sort of a schedule or catalog of the Pacific Northwest Labor School for what they call its fall term of October 6 to December 12. Mr. TAVENNER. What year? 1947? Mr. O’CONNELL. It apparently--I notice somebody made a notation up here, 1947, but it doesn’t appear. Mr. TAVENNER. I desire to offer the document in evidence, and ask that it be marked “O’Connell Exhibit No. 1” for identification purposes only, and made a part of the committee files. Mr. DOYLE. It is so ordered. Mr. TAVENNER. By reference to the exhibit it is noted that course No. 148, offered at this school, was entitled “Northwest Labor History” by John Daschbach, extension director, and William J. Pennock, president of the Washington Pension Union. Will you tell the committee, please, whether John Daschbach was known to you to be a member of the Communist Party? Mr. O’CONNELL. He was not. Mr. TAVENNER. He was not a member of the Communist Party? Mr. O’CONNELL. He was not known to me to be a member of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. Mr. Chairman, I think the record should show he has been identified by both Eugene Dennett and Barbara Hartle---- Mr. O’CONNELL. I think he was also a Smith Act defendant.