Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841 — John Shaqi
Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841Fuller, Margaret
Philosophy
Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841
Fuller, Margaret
Mythology, Classical, in art; Mythology, Greek
MARGARET told William White that Coleridge had once said that he could
neither measure nor understand Plato’s ignorance! His mind had not
reached that altitude!
HENRY HEDGE, not willing to forego the possible birth of Genius, asked if
all the experience and discovery with which the world had been enriched
since Plato’s time would not furnish enough for the new-comer to act upon?
MARGARET replied that the mind could not receive unless excited. She must
go through all the intellectual experience of a Plato, to be as great
as he; but she might stand upon the general or even her own intuitive
recognition of the truths he had advanced, and go forward to greater
results,—but still that would not be to make herself greater.
But, said MRS. RIPLEY, in the first case you would be nothing _but_ Plato.
MARGARET acceded, but begged not to be understood as doubting that the
future would be capable of finer things than the past.
The ideal significance of the Mythology was further dwelt upon, and
much was said of the contrast between the thought of the priest and the
worship of the people. It was acknowledged as a matter of course, that
only a few preserved any consciousness of the original significance of
the Mythology.
HENRY HEDGE thought that this was the true key to the purpose of the
Eleusinian mysteries, whether in Egypt where they originated, or in
Greece where they were introduced. Through them, all who chose became
initiated into the interior meaning of the Mythology.
CHARLES WHEELER added, that in the flourishing times of the Athenian
Republic every citizen was compelled to initiate himself.
MARGARET closed our talk with a gentle reproof to our wandering wits. To
prevent such desultory prattling, she desired that a subject should be
proposed for the next evening. The story of Ceres or Rhea, in fact the
Productive Energy however manifested, carried general favor, and Margaret
said archly that she had thought the presence of gentlemen (who had never
until now attended one of her talks) would prevent the wandering and keep
us free from prejudice!
I thought she was rightly disappointed.
I cannot recall the words, but at some time this evening Margaret
distinguished three mythological dynasties. The first was the reign of
the Natural Powers. The second, represented by Jupiter, Pluto, and
Neptune, stood for the height, the depth, and the surface or flow of
things, the first manifestations of human consciousness. The third was
the Bacchic, Bacchus not being yet, in her estimation, the vulgar God of
the wine-vat and the festival, but the inspired Genius,—being to Apollo,
as she said, what the nectar is to the grape.
CAROLINE W. HEALEY.
March 2, 1841.
II.
_March 8, 1841._
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