Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841Fuller, Margaret
Philosophy
Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841
Fuller, Margaret
Mythology, Classical, in art; Mythology, Greek
MARGARET added that, if we compare the Indian Elysium with the Greek, the
difference in spirituality is perceived at once.
HENRY HEDGE said that Frank Shaw talked about Greek mythi, but nobody
could show a purely Greek mythos.
FRANK replied that he only meant that when the Greek mind had acted on a
myth, it had not refined it.
MARGARET added that it was a vulgar notion that the Poets of Greece
created her Gods; that the Poets were objective, and could give only
humanized representations of them.
HENRY HEDGE thought that there was a point to which philosophy aided and
prompted the creative power, but, that point passed, rather checked its
action. Analysis took the place of the objective tendency.
Well! said WILLIAM WHITE, would not the human mind, aided only by
culture, be incapable of any better idea than Frank Shaw suggested? Must
not revelation complete the work?
MARGARET said that the answer to his question would be determined by
his understanding of the word “revelation.” _She_ could not believe in
a God who had ever left himself without a witness in the world. As soon
as the human mind and will were ready, there was always some great Truth
waiting to be submitted to their united action, until it was worn out.
The beautiful Greek era had been succeeded by a period of inaction; the
Roman era by another, and so on. She was sorry we had wandered from our
subject so far as to doubt her very premises!
FRANK said, everything rested on those premises; so he thought that the
ideals of beauty, love, justice, and truth should be referred to the
Infinite Mind, and not to the Greek.
I wonder where he was when Margaret told about the Love which “was”
before Order!
HENRY HEDGE said that Culture was the Mediator between the Finite and the
Infinite.
JAMES FREEMAN CLARKE, alluding to Mr. Hedge’s previous remark upon the
growth of philosophy, and the loss of the creative power, said that if
that were a fact, it greatly diminished the probability of the birth
of pure Genius into the world. Plato wrote when philosophy was at the
turning point.
MARGARET said that there were many proofs in Plato that the philosophers
understood the personifications of the mythi. She thought that the gods,
the demigods, and the heroes of mythology represented distinct classes,
and that this was not sufficiently remembered. She referred to the story
of the burning of Hercules in Ovid, where Jupiter calls Juno to see how
well his son endures!
WILLIAM WHITE said that he thought the idea of Deity was degraded when
the Greeks changed a hero into a god; but if Culture be a Mediator, would
not Plato have been greater had he been born into the nineteenth century?
JAMES F. CLARKE said Platos were impossible now.
MARGARET agreed, and said that the pride of knowledge which he would
find in the world should he appear, would be a greater obstacle than
superstition once was.
Did somebody say a little while ago that Will indomitable was born of
obstacle?
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