Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841Fuller, Margaret
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Margaret and Her Friends: or, Ten conversations with Margaret Fuller upon the mythology of the Greeks and its expression in art, held at the house of the Rev. George Ripley, Bedford Place, Boston, beginning March 1, 1841
Fuller, Margaret
Mythology, Classical, in art; Mythology, Greek
MARGARET agreed with Mr. Wheeler, and said that by reality she understood
anything incarnated,—whatever was tangible. She then went on to speak of
the Sphinx. What was it?
ELISABETH HOAR seemed surprised at the question. Was it not one thing to
everybody?
MARGARET called for her idea, but she would not give it.
MARGARET said that to herself it represented the development of a
thought, founding itself upon the animal, until it grew upward into calm,
placid power. She revered these good ancients, who did not throw away any
of the gifts of God; who were neither materialists nor immaterialists,
but who made matter always subservient to the highest ends of the Spirit.
WILLIAM WHITE asked if the festivals of the Gods, the highest source
of their influence over the people, did not show how little they had
penetrated to the spirit of things?
MARGARET thought ambrosia and nectar were proper emblems of Divine Joy.
They were not to be taken literally.
“But,” persisted WHITE, “the great body of the people thought them so.”
WILLIAM STORY said, with happy grace, that the great _body_ of the people
might be excused for such a thought.
MARGARET enjoyed the pun, and said that the great Greek body was sensuous
and ate, but that the Greek soul knew better than to suspect the Gods of
opening their mouths.
E. P. P. waked up at this moment, and asked what Margaret would say to
Berkeley’s theory.
MARGARET said she did not know what it was!
E. P. P. said, the evolution of all things from the soul, the
non-existence of matter.
JAMES P. CLARKE thought it very difficult to decide how far spirit and
matter were one. A man’s identity was not in the particles which came
and went every seven years, but in the spirit. Yet these particles
constituted the wall of separation between himself and others. His
identity was in his spirit.
GEORGE RIPLEY begged leave to disagree. He thought we knew as much about
matter as about spirit, and that Berkeley’s theory was as good as any.
MARGARET said that if God created matter, of course it was evolved from
spirit; that matter could not be antagonistic to that from which it was
evolved. To express a complete idea, we had only to say, “Jehovah, I am.”
“Or,” CHARLES WHEELER added, “to be silent.”
“Yes,” said MARGARET, “and in that lies the merit of Mythology. Every
faculty was, according to that, an incomplete statement. Therefore Mr.
Ripley did wrong to confound Minerva with the Logos.”
E. P. P. did not see that Berkeley’s statement was answered.
WILLIAM STORY came in with another pun. “If Berkeley thought so, it was
_no matter_!”
Some stupid person spoiled the wit by trying to explain it, and the
question remained to us just as much matter as ever.
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