Notes and Queries, Vol. IV, Number 106, November 8, 1851: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.Various
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Notes and Queries, Vol. IV, Number 106, November 8, 1851: A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
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A similar colony is located in that part of Glamorgan called Gower; and
the Flemish population, both of Rôs and of Gower, still retain many
peculiar customs and words; while they scrupulously keep aloof from the
Welsh, each people looking down upon the other, and considering
intermarriage as a degradation. I have been told by a friend that
Flemish colonies were also located in Norfolk and Cambridgeshire. This
much is certain: in the last-named county fields are occasionally
divided between different proprietors, in the manner known as
"landshares," a custom which prevails to a great extent in Gower, and
also, I believe, in Rôs. Am I right in considering this Flemish
peculiarity?
SELEUCUS.
In an ancient map of this town, Pembroke (South Wales), of which the
language is Norman-French, two districts of ours are mentioned thus: _Le
grene_, which is now called "the green;" and _Monton_, now called
"mountain." As regards the first, not a portion of _green_ is
discoverable; it is a disagreeable street, close to a large mill and
sheet of water, with none of the conditions of a country green. I have
often wondered at the name, feeling persuaded that there never could
have existed such a spot here as would be so called, and was puzzled
till I last week saw this old map. Tracing the matter, although no
French substantive seems to exist spelled _grene_, the v.n. _grener_ and
its relatives afford a solution--as _grenier_ is a granary, and
_grenetis_ the mill round a coin: so that I take it for granted, as our
_green_ in fact is in the immediate neighbourhood of the corn-mill, that
from said pounding or grinding (_grener_) it solely is derived.
The solution of "mountain" is not so easy. It is a portion of the town
outside the old fortifications, at the _foot_ of a high hill; so never
could have been dignified by the term "mountain" from its height,--in
fact, it rises but little from the estuary, one arm of which here
terminates. The tide here ceases; up to this spot "la marée _monte_." Am
I right in conjecturing that _montant_ (pronounced just like _monton_),
meaning "rising" as well as mounting, may be the origin of the
designation?
All the early memorials of Pembroke are either Norman or Flemish, those
foreigners having settled here. We have no token of Welsh; perhaps there
are not six people in the town who can speak the language. The names of
some of the inhabitants are French and Flemish, and it is to be noted
that their personal appearance corresponds with the type of their
ancestral country. Our parish clerk, named _Freyne_, is a little
Frenchman to all intents and purposes; and our street-keeper, _Rushaut_,
has all the square stolidity and heavy features of the Low Countries.
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