5. It is not only the increased number of people who would travel to and from all parts of the country who now cannot or will not do so on account of the expense, but also the increase in the number of journeys undertaken by existing travellers. Parents living in remote parts of the country whose children work in large towns and who, on account of high fares, cannot visit each other, business men and commercial travellers who will multiply their long distance journeys for business purposes if they can do for 2s. what now costs 10 or 20 times as much, are a few among many classes who will swell the number. It will be remembered that by far the greater proportion of the population are those in receipt of an income of less than £3 per week to whom any fares of 10s. or over are prohibitive except in extreme cases. Let me give one very homely illustration which has come under my notice. A domestic servant in London had a serious illness, necessitating an operation at one of the hospitals. Her parents lived in humble circumstances in a Cornish village. The mother came to London and had to pay £2 for a return ticket. Her daughter had to remain about two months in the hospital while the mother had to return home without being able to afford the luxury of another return journey to London. But during the whole of that time trains were going to and from the same place every day and night with plenty of room for the old lady, who could, of course, have been carried any number of times without any appreciable cost to the company. Now, suppose the uniform fare of 1s. each way had come into operation, she or some other member of the family would, no doubt, have come up at least once a week, and instead of one return ticket which cost £2, and would be included in the Board of Trade returns as two passenger journeys, the family would have only paid 16s. for the eight double journeys, the extra cost to the Government would be nil and the increase in the number of passenger journeys would be 14. It is not unusual to see long distance trains arrive in London with not more than 15 or 20 passengers. (_b_) As to goods traffic. For the purposes of the estimates of goods traffic there must be added to existing total receipts from goods train traffic the amount included in the official returns under the head of “passenger traffic” of £10,000,000 received for mails, luggage, and other goods carried by passenger trains, making the total revenue for goods at present of £74,000,000. There is no official Return as to the tonnage of goods carried by passenger trains, but assuming that the present average rate for goods carried by passenger trains is £2 per ton, this would represent a further tonnage, irrespective of passengers’ luggage, of 20,000,000 tons.