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The dialogues of Plato in five volumes, Vol. 2 (of 5) : $b Translated into English with analyses and introductions
Plato
Dialogues, Greek -- Translations into English; Philosophy, Ancient
_Soc._ But, friend Euthyphro, if that which is holy is the
same with that which is dear to God, and is loved because it
is holy, then that which is dear to God would have been 11
loved as being dear to God; but if that which is dear to God
is dear to him because loved by him, then that which is holy
would have been holy because loved by him. But now you
see that the reverse is the case, and that they are quite
different from one another. For one (θεοφιλὲς) is of a kind to
be loved because it is loved, and the other (ὅσιον) is loved
because it is of a kind to be loved. Thus you appear to me,
Euthyphro, when I ask you what is the essence of holiness,
to offer an attribute only, and not the essence—the attribute
of being loved by all the gods. But you still refuse to
explain to me the nature of holiness. And therefore, if you
please, I will ask you not to hide your treasure, but to tell
me once more what holiness or piety really is, whether dear
to the gods or not (for that is a matter about which we will
not quarrel); and what is impiety?
_Euth._ I really do not know, Socrates, how to express what
I mean. For somehow or other our arguments, on whatever
ground we rest them, seem to turn round and walk away
from us.
[Sidenote: _Socrates ‘a greater than Daedalus.’_]
_Soc._ Your words, Euthyphro, are like the handiwork of my
ancestor Daedalus; and if I were the sayer or propounder of
them, you might say that my arguments walk away and will
not remain fixed where they are placed because I am a
descendant of his. But now, since these notions are your
own, you must find some other gibe, for they certainly, as
you yourself allow, show an inclination to be on the move.
_Euth._ Nay, Socrates, I shall still say that you are the
Daedalus who sets arguments in motion; not I, certainly,
but you make them move or go round, for they would never
have stirred, as far as I am concerned.
_Soc._ Then I must be a greater than Daedalus: for whereas
he only made his own inventions to move, I move those of
other people as well. And the beauty of it is, that I would
rather not. For I would give the wisdom of Daedalus, and
the wealth of Tantalus, to be able to detain them and keep
them fixed. But enough of this. As I perceive that you are
lazy, I will myself endeavour to show you how you might
instruct me in the nature of piety; and I hope that you will
not grudge your labour. Tell me, then,—Is not that which is
pious necessarily just?
_Euth._ Yes.
[Sidenote: All which is pious is just:—is therefore all which is just
pious?]
_Soc._ And is, then, all which is just pious? or, is that which is
pious all just, but that which is just, only in part and not all, 12
pious?
_Euth._ I do not understand you, Socrates.
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