The first philosophers of Greece : $b An edition and translation of the remaining fragments of the pre-Sokratic philosophers, together with a translation of the more important accounts of their opinions contained in the early epitomes of their works — John Shaqi
The first philosophers of Greece : $b An edition and translation of the remaining fragments of the pre-Sokratic philosophers, together with a translation of the more important accounts of their opinions contained in the early epitomes of their worksFairbanks, Arthur
Philosophy
The first philosophers of Greece : $b An edition and translation of the remaining fragments of the pre-Sokratic philosophers, together with a translation of the more important accounts of their opinions contained in the early epitomes of their works
Fairbanks, Arthur
Philosophy, Ancient
130. Greg. Naz. _Or._ xxv. (xxiii.) 15, p. 466, ed. Par. 1778 πηλῷ πηλὸν
καθαιρόντων. Elias Cretensis on the Gregory passage (cod. Vat. Pii II.
6, fol. 90 r) gives first thirteen words (Byw. 130). Cf. Apollonius,
_Ep._ 27. Byw. 126, the last sentence, from Origen, _c. Cels._ i. 5, p.
6 (quoting Celsus); and in part vii. 62, p. 384, Clem. Al. _Prot._ 4,
p. 44. The whole passage, lacking the last eight words, is published by
Neumann, _Hermes_ xv. 1880, p. 605 (cf. also xvi. 159), from fol. 83 a
of a MS. entitled Χρησμοὶ θεῶν (containing also works ascribed to Justin
Martyr) formerly in the Strassburg library.
This same MS. gives the following fragment, the last clauses of which
Neumann joins to the passage as given in the text: δαιμόνων ἀγάλμασιν
εὔχονται οὐκ ἀκούουσιν, ὥσπερ ἀκούοιεν, οὐκ ἀποδιδοῦσιν, ὥσπερ οὐκ
ἀπαιτοῖεν.
130a. Given by Neumann from the Strassburg MS. just referred to. The
saying is attributed to Xenophanes by Aristotle, _Rhet._ 23; 1400 b 5 and
Plutarch, v. _infra_, p. 78.
131. Diog. Laer. ix. 7.
132. Diog. Laer. ix. 7. Cf. _Floril. Monac._ 195, p. 282.
133. Apollonius, _Ep._ 18.
134. _Floril. Monac._ 199, p. 283. Cf. Philo, ap. Ioan. Dam. _S. P._ 693
E, fr. p. 652 Mang. Stob. _Flor._ iv. 88 credits it to Bion; Maxim. Conf.
_Serm._ 34, p. 624 Combef.
135. _Floril. Monac._ 200, p. 283.
136. Maximus Conf. _Serm._ 8, p. 557.
137. Maximus Conf. _Serm._ 46, p. 646.
138. Schol. ad Eurip. _Hek._ 184, i. p. 254 Dind.
TRANSLATION.
1. Not on my authority, but on that of truth, it is wise for you to
accept the fact that all things are one.
Hippolytos quotes this with Fragment 45, to show that
Herakleitos taught the underlying unity of all things. On the
word λόγος (meaning both discourse and the truth the discourse
contains), _v._ Zeller, i. 630, n. 1.
2. This truth, though it always exists, men do not understand, as well
before they hear it as when they hear it for the first time. For although
all things happen in accordance with this truth, men seem unskilled
indeed when they make trial of words and matters such as I am setting
forth, in my effort to discriminate each thing according to its nature,
and to tell what its state is. But other men fail to notice what they do
when awake, in the same manner that they forget what they do when asleep.
Hippolytos quotes this passage with reference to a universal
all-pervading reason.
3. Those who hear without the power to understand are like deaf men; the
proverb holds true of them—‘Present, they are absent.’
Quoted by Clement in illustration of Ev. Luc. xiv. 35.
4. Eyes and ears are bad witnesses for men, since their souls lack
understanding.
Sextus Emp. interprets this as meaning ‘rude souls trust the
irrational senses.’ Cf. Zeller, i. 716, n. 5.
5. Most men do not understand such things as they are wont to meet with;
nor by learning do they come to know them, though they think they do.
6. They know not how to listen, nor how to speak.
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