Did you drop the reverse lever forward when you shut off? I don't remember that particularly. When you put the air on, did you use all that was indicated on your gauge? I naturally should do so. Did you? No, I slapped the air around, put the handle full around; I didn't stop to see what was indicated on the gauge. Did you use any sand? No. Were quite excited at the time? I suppose I naturally was. You lost your head in fact; isn't that the fact now? No, because it is still on my shoulders. You might as well have been without a head; you lost your judgment, didn't you? I don't see that any judgment would come in after having shut the steam off and put the air on. Couldn't you have used sand? I did not. You could have used it if you had thought of it? No, sir; because I didn't see any benefit; as long as the drivers don't slip it is all right. Do you know that sand will help to stop a train quicker? No, sir, I don't know it. Do you swear it will not? No, sir, because I have never made any experiment in that. Then you know nothing about it? You don't know whether it would help or not? I have only my judgment, which is formed after quite an elaborate series of experiments on the brakes. John F. Laughlin was examined in chief by Mr. Sullivan, and testified: Q. What is your name? A. John Francis Laughlin. Where do you live? At 818 Washtenaw avenue. What is your business? Switchman, in charge of switch engine. For what road are you working? Chicago, Burlington & Quincy; I was at one time, until I quit. Were you employed on the 23d of March for that road? Yes, sir. Why did you quit? Because I did not see fit to work with incompetent engineers. What were you engaged at on the evening of March 23d, and where were you employed? March 23d I did not do much. I only took one train to the Stock Yards and came back. This accident I have reference to happened March 22d, I believe, at 10:30 p. m. What were you doing on the evening of the 22d, and where were you employed? On the evening of the 22d of March I had fifty cars shoving into the new yard at Hawthorne, which is about three miles and a half, as near as I can judge, from Western avenue. We stopped to give me a chance to raise the semaphore for the protection of trains coming east, and also set the switches going into the new yard. I got up and gave the signal to go ahead, and as I did a crash came. What character of train was it that run into yours--a freight? A freight train. What was the condition of the track, so far as obstructions were concerned, between your train and the train which collided with you? There was no obstruction whatever; there was a clear view four miles or three miles and a half; something like that.